How do y'all do your email and calendars? Those are the two things that aren't easy to replace from proton.
Mind, my email needs to be reliable for work reasons.
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What did you switch to?
Personal domain and an imap provider so that I can easily switch in the future if needed.
Which provider automatically handles pgp encryption for you, like proton?
How are you going to do that? I'm curious because I want to do the same and have email clients on multiple devices.
Most web hosts provide IMAP hosting as part of the service? All you usually have to do is click a button to set it up.
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Any good VPN other than Proton? Almost every one is going down the enshitification route and I'm looking for an alternative.
I swear by AirVPN. Not the fastest or fanciest, but they've got port forwarding and are run by an activist org; I've got a lifetime membership IIRC
Be mindful that Italy passed a law forcing vpn's to block pirated content, and AirVPN is based in Italy.
Does this affect anyone outside of Italy though? When I recently signed up for it it had a huge warning saying they don't allow Italian residents to use them, nor do they host any Italian servers, I assume so they don't have to deal with this law at all
I’m out of the loop. What’s happening with Proton?
They stopped their official Mastodon presence citing having not enough resources to maintain communities everywhere, which caused outrage among the Fediverse.
Previously, they vocally supported the actions of Trump administration on the matters of Internet privacy, which caused a massive backlash.
So, essentially, they have alienated a lot of userbase by making questionable moves.
I feel you're misrepresenting the second point.
Proton did not comment on Trump. Their CEO did. And specifically on liking a certain hire for a certain position because he thought that would be good for small business.
It was a garbage take for many reasons, and the community let that be known. For me that was that but people keep coming back to this as some sort of unforgivable transgression.
Liberals (among which I count myself) like to piss on Musk and buddies for not actually supporting freedom of speech even though they call themselves absolutists in this area, but drastic moves like leaving over some tweet is a plank cut from the same tree...
If you're going to move every time somebody says something you find questionable you're going to have a hell of a time with the average company being filled with hundreds of people and thusly hundreds of opinions. And it's good to remember most people are going to be having these takes in background without you knowing of them.
Reddit has a tendancy to be alarmist. AFAIK there's zero evidence to support Proton are closeted MAGA. If i'm wrong on this i'll gladly stand corrected with some substantial evidence.
The CEO endorses the American Nazi Party
Man this community has become a Proton removed party.
You're all exaggerating. This thing with the tweet is WAY overblown.
It's not just about a single issue, the company has changed significantly over the past 8 years. It has grown too large and now offers many products that I don't use. As a result, it no longer aligns with my needs, and I've decided to take more control, similar to when I stopped using Gmail. I'm not suggesting you should stop using it, I'm just making a personal choice that works for me.
Then it's not about that political crap. It's about it not being what you're looking for. And that's fine. But say that instead of the politics being the major reason you're leaving.
Edit :
And yes it has changed in 8 years.
It improved by providing more than a sinple VPN or a simple email service. But offering a whole suite of tools to compete with Google, which is a pretty fucking ambitious project.
They also changed to being owned by a non profit foundation with a clear mission to which they are legally tied to with a seriously competent team.
I agree on the products thing. Bitcoin Wallet? WTF. While their staff says supporting drive sync on Linux is hard. (Yet seafile, and Google drive work on Linux)
Google does not support Drive on Linux.
If you add your Online Google Account to GNOME, it integrates your calendar, mail and adds a mapped Gdrive in Nautilus
Yes but that's not supported by Google. If your going to ding Proton Drive for not having a natove Linux client then you shouldn't tout Google Drive as a competitor who does, as they don't. You're giving Google Drive a free pass because of a third party. Google and Proton are the same on this feature and you should disparage both services equally as a result.
Sure, supporting MAGA is "way overblown".
Proton is not supporting MAGA.
Andrew Yan made ONE comment about ONE decision Trump took. Sure it was a stupid comment. But PROTON isn't bad because of this. They're being run by a foundation with some pretty competent and knowledgeable people on the board of directors, if you ever bothered to look.
Proton is not supporting MAGA.
Whatever you say, I guess. We didn't read the same thing then.
What the heck are you on about? What does this license have to do with anything?
You posted the same link twice but neither of them mention or seem to relate to Proton?
Some people seem to think that adding a license to their comments will prevent LLMs from using them for training data. It won’t actually help at all, and is born out of a fundamental misunderstanding of how copyright law works.
It got to be pretty popular for a while when Reddit was announcing that they’re selling content as LLM training data. But these days it has become clear that it’s just virtue signaling. Most of us just side-eye the commenters who do it, because it’s basically the Reddit equivalent of one of those “Facebook will begin using all of your data unless you post this status on your page” chain letters.