Paying for services isn't philosophically incompatible with FOSS, that's how companies like RedHat broke through back in the day, but paying for "quick and high-quality security updates" strikes me as alarming. Am I to take from that that they're holding back high-quality security updates from some users? Unless maybe we're talking about extended support for EoL software.
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Pro is free for 5 devices for individuals.
If you are running a business, Yes pay for pro in the same way you would have paid for windows.
Saving you a click: No.
If you want technical support, of course you do. Just because a code is open source does not mean it should be free. Developers need to eat too. Another issue is that there are distributions such as ZorinOS that charge money for the right to use a pro version, when in reality it is the same version that you can configure yourself and that ZorinOS belongs to a company, not a user community.
I’d be happy to pay for things like Ubuntu Touch to have quickly a viable alternative to Android and iOS. It’s possible to donate, but donations tend to not be reliable or make development viable at all. Paying for Open Source seems fine, as long as fund allocation is fully transparent.
Yeah in the end it's big tech that decides what should be developed and what should not. Like for a period of time Microsoft was the biggest contributor to open source, but that's only because they wanted to make windows VMs work...
It might sound kinda radical, but I feel that we need a culture shift to people paying for things, even if it’s small amounts, if we want to be truly competitive to „big tech“. Big tech uses venture capital to offer free stuff and thereby establish monopolies. We expect developers to work for free. It does work to an extent, but obviously it’s limited. And also people deserve being paid for their work.
Some work could be done in the area of how the funds are managed and presented, so it’s transparent and fair.
For desktop? Ubuntu is one of the worst and slowest desktop distributions; nobody should be paying for that.
If you need what they provide, I don’t see why not. It’s great to monetarily support open source. Devs need to eat too.
Seems fine, I don't see why a home/DIY user would stay on an Ubuntu LTS release for more than 5 years.
TIL as a normal Ubuntu user, you don't get quick and high-quality security updates.
You do, but not when your distro is EoL and not with livepatching to avoid reboots.


Not true. 22.04 is not EoL and it doesn't get all CVE patches backported unless you're on Pro.
Huh, that was hidden deeper than I like.
https://ubuntu.com/security/cves/about#security
https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Repositories/Ubuntu
https://askubuntu.com/questions/1452497/what-are-esm-apps-and-how-do-they-relate-to-ubuntu-pro
edit: adding some relevant links
From the link:
Here, the Ubuntu developers roll out in-house universe security patches (additional backports of new patches against historical versions of the packages), which was previously not available
I'm not sure every package should be considered supported in LTS, so this not being available by default looks ok for me
I'd gladly pay, and I do support some foss projects.
However I would not pay Canonical for anything. I don't like their products or some of their practices.
We have to invest time for the helpdesk. It's may be ours, or others (in paying for it). However, I think the Odoo experience show how much this economic model is an incentive to get the software as hard as possible to maintain.
Maybe we sall have many cooperatives, independents or hire people instead
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