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I’m back! It’s been a while since I’ve been on this site because I’ve found myself under some financial trouble and I’ve been stressed BUT I wanted to take this opportunity to talk about something I love dearly: dihedral groups!

Consider the symmetries of a square:

We can see that there are 4 reflections and 3 rotations, as well as the act of doing nothing at all. Together, we have 8 total symmetries, and in fact, these are all of the possible symmetries. What this means is that if we do one of these symmetric moves and then do another one, we will have not changed the square, and therefore doing these two moves is the same as doing just one of the 8 symmetries on its own. For example, doing a 90 degree rotation followed by a 180 degree rotation is the same as doing a 270 degree rotation. Also, doing a 90 degree rotation followed by a reflection across the vertical axis is the same as doing a reflection across a diagonal axis.

So in other words, we can define a function that takes two symmetries of a square as input and which outputs another symmetry. Since standard multiplication is a function taking two numbers and outputting another number, it makes sense to borrow the notation of multiplication for this function. Our symmetry function satisfies a few useful properties:

  • Closure: As explained above, for any two symmetries, the function will spit out another symmetry
  • Identity: There is a symmetry (namely, the “do nothing” symmetry) such that when it is input into the function with another symmetry, the function will always simply output the other symmetry
  • Associativity: For any symmetries a, b, and c, (ab)c = a(bc)
  • Inverses: For every symmetry, there is a symmetry that undoes it. For example, rotating a square by 270 degrees undoes rotating it by 90 degrees, and doing a reflection a second time after doing it once undoes the first reflection

These 4 properties are so important that any set of objects with a function defined on it that satisfies all of these properties has a special name: they’re called groups and they’re really freaking awesome. The symmetries of a square as a group is called D~8~, since there are 8 total symmetries. Sometimes you might see it called D~4~, since squares have 4 sides, but I think this convention is a bit silly. In the same way, D~6~ is the symmetries of an equilateral triangle, D~10~ is the symmetries of a regular pentagon, and so forth. In general, D~2n~ is the symmetries of a regular n-gon.

Now, one interesting thing is that groups can contain each other. For example, consider an octagon. Since there are squares hidden within the points of octagons, if we pick a square we can see that all of the symmetries of that square are present in the symmetries of of the octagon, so it is possible to throw out all of the other symmetries. What we would be left with is just the symmetries of a square. What this means is that D~8~ is contained in D~16~. You can play similar games to show that there are lots of groups contained inside the dihedral groups.

The last thing I want to talk about regarding these things are their subgroup lattices. Oftentimes mathematicians want to picture the internal structure of a group. One of the ways they might do this is by writing down all of the subgroups of a group they’re studying onto a piece of paper, and then connecting any two with a line if one of them is a subgroup of the other that doesn’t have a subgroup between them. The resulting picture is called a subgroup lattice, and I’ve left some dihedral group lattices below because I think they’re pretty.

two cute dihedral subgroup lattices holding hands and cuddling

Anyway this has been gushposting with your host, yewler. Maybe next mega I might talk about more specific details that make these things cool.

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[–] TheSpectreOfGay@hexbear.net 14 points 2 months ago

found families are so cool, wish they were real

[–] Mari@hexbear.net 14 points 2 months ago (9 children)

my thigh highs keep ripping doggirl-gloom

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[–] Thallo@hexbear.net 14 points 2 months ago (2 children)

I want to start reading big girl real literature again, but I'm addicted to light lesbian romance novels catgirl-cry

[–] Disaster_of_Passion@hexbear.net 14 points 2 months ago (1 children)

It's still big girl literature if there's a big girl in it, right?

[–] Thallo@hexbear.net 12 points 2 months ago (1 children)

The girls are all adults of normal size!! powercry-2

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[–] EstraDoll@hexbear.net 14 points 2 months ago (3 children)

asexual autistic person whose special interest is sex who finds it interesting in a totally theoretical way that they aren't actually interested in having

[–] TerminalEncounter@hexbear.net 13 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago) (2 children)

Ah youve met sex nerds then

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[–] yewler@hexbear.net 14 points 2 months ago (2 children)

I somehow feel as though I'm not maximizing my gay potential

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[–] JohnBrownsBussy2@hexbear.net 14 points 2 months ago

Planning a Pride trip to a major USian city with my partner and some of their queer friends.

meow-bounce

[–] Boynomoder@hexbear.net 14 points 2 months ago (1 children)

When a video has Part 1 in the title, but then you look on the channel after and the other parts still aren’t out doggirl-tears

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[–] other_platypus@hexbear.net 13 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago)

I watched a random video yesterday that reminded me that if doing all of something isn't possible, doing some of it is way better than nothing.

Like the example was brushing your teeth for 30 seconds is better than zero, and if you can't do 2 minutes you should try to do even a little.

My to-do list is still overwhelming but maybe it'll help a little idk

[–] LocalOaf@hexbear.net 13 points 2 months ago

(lesbianly develops crush on a very tall very cute WNBA player)

[–] XiaCobolt@hexbear.net 13 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago) (2 children)

I went up to 6mg estrogen and I'm so hungry all the fucking time. I know it's connected both logically and from googling. But it's wild.

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[–] Hohsia@hexbear.net 13 points 2 months ago

Hell is other people

[–] inTheShadowOf@hexbear.net 13 points 2 months ago

You can really be anything you want and I think that's great.

I support you trans-heart

[–] sodium_nitride@hexbear.net 13 points 2 months ago

How the hell do I feel motivated to do anything when I can't make any progress on my tasks? I hate software shit. 90% of the time you feel like you are getting nowhere.

[–] other_platypus@hexbear.net 13 points 2 months ago (1 children)

tailism is when you tell someone goodnight and they say good night back. think of something original jeez

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[–] Disaster_of_Passion@hexbear.net 13 points 2 months ago (1 children)

depressed-posting, cw: misogyny, transphobiareally wish I could get a real life support structure and friend group that wasn't almost entirely cishet men... all the people who I've been closest with who are still in my life are cishet men, they're the people who have in many ways given me the most tangible support, but they all just have this really like passive creepy misogyny, passive transphobia... and it's just like little things, they're not going on like incel rants... but it still feels like I'm always just waiting for a bomb to go off, like I'm always on high alert and I can never feel comfortable. These are people who have been my safe people before, my safe friends, and I don't feel safe with them anymore in a time where I need safe people more than ever.

I can't help but wonder if I'm just a shitty person, because the only people who ever seem to like me end up being shitty people. Or if I'm just some sort of mark, like I'm just here to be used and sucked dry and thrown away. Can't help but think it's both. fuck. idk. I feel like my options are basically cling to my support structure that it hurts to hold on to, or have no support structure at all, and those are pretty shitty options.

[–] buh@hexbear.net 13 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago)

spoilersadly a lot of cishet men are socialized to be like that, so don't beat yourself up for it. fwiw in some cases it's something that can be unlearned, but it takes a long time, and a base level of respect for other people as humans. that's to say that they need to approach the subject in good faith. to me, if they're willing to talk about it but only to catch you in some gotcha or do some sarcastic agree and amplify type shit, they're not ready.

another factor may be that you're more conscious about these things now than when you first met them, due to experiencing the process of transitioning, or even just growing as a person in general. not that I've ever been misogynistic or transphobic, but I can remember things said by male friends in the past that, at the time I just shrugged off or rolled my eyes at, but if I heard them now would infuriate me.

[–] Seryph@lemmygrad.ml 13 points 2 months ago (1 children)

(cw: Homophobia)I think I got called a removed by someone walking next to me today? Not entirely sure, it was under his breath but it did distinctly sound like that. Kinda pissed about it regardless.

[–] TerminalEncounter@hexbear.net 12 points 2 months ago (1 children)

spoilerThey called me removed removed in school when I had my hair long so now I call myself it with pride. I know there's a censor filter over it but theyre my words now

[–] Seryph@lemmygrad.ml 13 points 2 months ago

spoilerReclaiming slurs is cool, idk if I'm the type though, for me it just makes me angry in a 'I want to do something' way. It doesn't really hurt anymore, just anger.

[–] XiaCobolt@hexbear.net 13 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago) (4 children)

CW parental transphobiaJFC my parents in law broke radio silence after ghosting us for four days, with amazing points such as:

-her mother is sick little birthday girl so we can’t be mad at her

-they feel abandoned. That is despite them not responding to our messages and sending none of their own

-they feel they can’t tell anyone as they’ve been made to hold this secret, we told them we were telling them first prior to my immediate exiting of the closet the next day,

-misunderstood comments like this was a process of discovery over several years from gender fluidity to non binary to clarity, and implied I had secretly decided I was a woman 5 years ago and not told them (god I wish)

-then proceeded a bunch of pestering questions only at me because my partner is interstate for work and posting pics, like I’d have small chat after all that

-and it’s at 10pm before a Monday with shit I’ve got to do and now I’m cooking hot dogs and reading Dorley Hall to calm down

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[–] inTheShadowOf@hexbear.net 13 points 1 month ago

bridget-pride cat-trans transshork-happy

Happy pride month everyone!

Never forget you're infinitely more based than any cis person could ever hope to be - even if it's hard to feel good sometimes. It's been rough this year, but at least now we can legally kill one cis person a day for the entire month. Hope you're all doing okay 💜

[–] buh@hexbear.net 12 points 2 months ago (1 children)
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[–] Wmill@hexbear.net 12 points 2 months ago (2 children)

The lesser evil that is a strict bedtimecatgirl-cry why do I have to pick this

[–] XiaCobolt@hexbear.net 13 points 2 months ago (2 children)

It's fucked up that going to be on time, doing exercise, drinking water and eating healthy actually makes you feel good. Really fucked up.

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[–] LocalOaf@hexbear.net 12 points 2 months ago (3 children)

biden-point flag-non-binary-pride

There's at least three genders Jack

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[–] Seryph@lemmygrad.ml 12 points 2 months ago (8 children)

Measurements and brainwormsEvery time I measure myself or get measured I somehow get closer to having an hourglass figure despite doing literally nothing. My waist keep getting thinner and my chest and hips keep getting wider. I'm genuinely even close to my hips being as wide as my shoulders.

My brain can't keep up or cope with it. I still feel like someone who wears men's medium/large and is bigger than the women around me despite the fact that I currently wear women's smalls and, beyond height, most women I know have bigger sizes than me. I even know that, when I first measured myself pre-E, that I was actually on par with cis women's measurements (based on the dress I was ordering) with the one exception being my waist which has since gotten smaller such that everything is on par now except occasionally height and shoulder width depending on the piece. So I recognise that I was actually more feminine in build in the first place than I thought I was, and I recognise that I'm incredibly lucky to have this sort of body. And I'm really grateful about that, I love it and I've loved watching it sculpt itself with estrogen.

But it is also existentially terrifying to consider when it shows just how much my body has changed in the 1.5 years since I started E and got kicked out. My waist getting thinner? That's because I literally ate nothing more than one muffin a day (at best) for a whole month immediately after I was kicked, and while I've been eating better I'm still not eating as well as I used to. My boobs and hips getting bigger? Typical estrogen effects that make me happy, but it's also pushing me into having a hourglass-adjacent body shape that is, for trans women, very atypical and feels almost alien compared to what I expected my body to become. I'll reiterate that I'm incredibly happy with all of these changes. But I'd be lying if I didn't say that whenever I get a concrete number to think about it scares me a little. It's always a reminder of where I was a year and a half ago and how my self-image doesn't align with my actual self at times, it's always a reminder of how quick a body can drastically change, and it's always a reminder that, maybe, a lot of the things I was dysphoric over were never quite so bad as they used to feel to me.

To use a term I loathe, being faced with these concrete numbers make me feel like I've been a "bdd passoid." I despise that term and how people use it to just insult anyone they consider prettier than them, while being dismissive of whatever dysphoria the person in question has. But it almost feels like it fits me, when I'm given these exact measurements that tell me not only is my body close to cisnormative patriarchal beauty standards in ways unattainable for other people, but it's been that way for maybe longer than I thought.

I've always had a very visual relationship with my dysphoria. It feels like, if I can't see the thing I'm dysphoric about in the moment, then it stops being present in my head. A good example is body hair. I often don't shave as often when it's winter and I'm wearing pants or tights since I can't see, and thereby feel bad about, my body hair. I'd prefer to always be clean shaven, of course. But there's a point where the cost-benefit ratio of shaving my body loses out and it's when I will be actively seeing the dysphoria-inducing thing in question. So this makes the possibility of being a "bdd passoid" feel stronger, after all, BDD is more obsessed with a false perception than anything actual. Maybe my dysphoria was always just that.

But that line of thought ends there, because I am genuinely very happy with my appearance now, in a way where BDD wouldn't seem to apply to me as well. And I mean, of course. "bdd passoids" are usually people who do worry about certain features and the term is just used as a cudgel to be shitty and dismissive of their hurt, to suggest that one's own hurt is more real and therefore valid unlike the passoid's. It's a cruel term like everything else that's come from /tttt/ and its adjacent spaces.

But in my case specifically, it matters that the thing that provokes this feeling is getting concrete measurements. I've always used body measurements as a way to actually track how femme I am, trying to chase a ridiculous cisnormative beauty standard because it's the thing that I thought would bring me some joy. And now that I've gotten quite close to it... It has. And so much of my dysphoria around these things is gone, and goes away every time I do it again. But certain things, my smallness in particular, haven't sunk in yet.

I don't really think my obsession with measurements has been healthy at all. I mean, obviously right? I became so fixated on them because it felt like a calculable way to determine what I'd need to magically pass. The same sort of toxic relationship with my body that spaces like /tttt/ promote, even if I never went there. I've never been quite so bad that I'd measure myself constantly; I only do it when necessary for clothing purchases. But nonetheless it has often been a huge source of both euphoria and dysphoria. Now that I've reached the "good" measurements, it always provokes euphoria. But it also always reminds me that I used to have a body that some would consider already lucky for a trans woman. So why wasn't I satisfied with it? Well, I don't think it was the right body for me. Why should I fixate on if I'm allowed to have felt dysphoric about it. I felt dysphoric regardless, wishing that away won't change anything. And now that I feel euphoric about my body more often than not, why should I believe that it's me being a "bdd passoid" rather than simply a dysphoria about something that just wasn't right for me? Why shouldn't I be allowed to feel this tangled mess of positive and negative emotions when I get a measurement and recognise how far I've come in this tangled mess of a life I've lived? I think that's where I'm at, now. It's a messy feeling that I get, and it's probably not the healthiest thing to feel when being measured. But I also don't think it's so negative as it could be. I'm okay with who I am, both body and mind, even if it took some time to get here.

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[–] Wmill@hexbear.net 12 points 2 months ago (19 children)

me trying to open up a dialogue with the trans megaWhat up nerds nerd

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[–] EstraDoll@hexbear.net 12 points 2 months ago

substance abusetrying not to drink having me feel like mr. krabs

DAY FIFTY FIVE! GIVE IT UP FOR DAY FIFTY FIVE!

it's only getting harder and i'm fucking losing it

[–] BountifulEggnog@hexbear.net 12 points 2 months ago (3 children)

spoilerI swear there's an emoji of someone who's face is melting off and that's pretty much how I feel

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[–] XiaCobolt@hexbear.net 12 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago) (5 children)

Dorley Hall would be a phenomenal prestige TV drama. Just the twists, dialogue, personal journeys etc.

I'm just not sure how you'd handle pre and post transition characters, time skips etc.

Animation would be one way but then it would probably be less of a hit.

Maybe casting lots of trans actors and using costuming and makeup IDK?

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[–] buh@hexbear.net 12 points 1 month ago (4 children)

one of gender-affirming-but-shitty things I do to myself is looking at posts from trans girls living the kind of life I wish I had and letting myself obsess over how jealous I am of them it until it stews into self hatred

this never happened when I looked at posts from conventionally successful men when I thought I was one of them

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[–] Seryph@lemmygrad.ml 12 points 2 months ago (3 children)

>me yesterday

"Women in suits are hot"

>me today

buying a suit

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[–] Disaster_of_Passion@hexbear.net 12 points 2 months ago (2 children)

one of the things I'm possibly irrationally happy with myself about is feminizing my sneeze.

I legitimately get angry if I'm around someone and I almost-sneeze-but-then-don't because I feel robbed of the opportunity to show off that I Sneeze Cute now.

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[–] Arahnya@hexbear.net 12 points 2 months ago

I really appreciate the transfeminist yuri (and yaoi) enjoyers who take the time to both dismantle cisheteropatriarchy (in anime and in general,) and also me know when an anime parallels Utena.

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