Can we just cut the back and forth and accept AI as another tool and let soulless AI content die off naturally. No one listens to music that's all autotune after we decided that it was shit. The same will be said for AI.
this post was submitted on 29 Mar 2025
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I will see ai as a tool when it behaves like a tool to help human creativity and not syphon it to make derivative trash; AI has potential but current applications are very dependent on training and mimicking content that was already made. Why waste my life viewing that with so many great artists and writers out there?
It does behave like a tool. Just like every other tool it can be used improperly.
bullshit! By the way who is your favorite AI artist? tell me something good about their work?
Why do people need to win this artist bad ai good argument? Maybe they just don't like people.
Randomly made this when clearing a pen's nib on a post-it
this is some really good shitty half-assed doodle
what an esteemed little guy :)
My doodle this week. I trace from cute pictures I see on the internet.
I rushed to dig through my old high school art class work and found this:
Love it!
cute
that do be a nice doodle
Ty!
As you wish
evenly lit, ink smudged weird, camera somehow perfectly on top without occluding any light
may snakes bite your balls and all your milk turn sour
"I judge art on the basis of how it was made, not on its merit in terms of the emotions and thoughts it elicits from me"
Is it not possible that how something is made also elicits emotions and thoughts?
"I find the ethics involved in the creation of something to be irrelevant."
Never heard anyone arguing over the ethics of the mining of lapis lazuli, and i think slavery and human misery trump plagerism.
So if ethics define art then DaVinci, Michelangelo, etc are not artists
Lapis lazuli? Maybe not, but lithium mines are a constant source of criticism for those reasons, and your simplification of the world to an either or scenario is incredibly disingenuous.
If you think that people like Da Vinci and Michaelangelo had nothing to say, then you know nothing about artists. Da Vinci hated the Pope who commissioned the Sistine Chapel so much that he painted him burning in Hell directly behind the altar. He was a gay man who had relationships with his apprentices and performed illegal autopsies on bodies to study the human anatomy during a time when it was considered descecrating the dead, which formed the foundation of modern medicine's understanding of the human body.
You're just making excuses so you feel better about stealing the labor of others.
No one is making excuses, I'm just pointing out the hipocrisy of saying that the art is less valid because of the tools used.
And yes, I believe a person who has an artistic idea but not the skills to represent it should be able to do it though AI, just writing a prompt doesn't make it art just like drawing a sunflower very realistically doesn't make it art. Is music less art because it's made with a synth or in Ableton?
No one is making excuses, I'm just pointing out the hipocrisy of saying that the art is less valid because of the tools used.
Good thing that's not something I said, then. So what you're doing is arguing a point that nobody said in order to reframe the actual argument into something different. Making excuses to avoid confronting the actual argument.
And yes, I believe a person who has an artistic idea but not the skills to represent it should be able to do it though AI
So do I. But if you're doing that with an LLM made by a company that's using unethically sourced training data to avoid paying the artists who made the art used for training, then you're buying into a system that exploits workers for your own convenience and that makes the art bad. AI slop isn't just slop because of the quality. It's also because it's wage theft. People respect the shitty napkin drawing more because, regardless of the quality, it shows that you were willing to put in the effort without the fancy tools while also not committing a corporation in the process.
you're buying into a system that exploits workers for your own convenience
The electronic device you used to make this post was also made by exploiting wage laborers for the benefit of capitalists. Yet, you found that device to be so convenient that you still bought and used it anyway. The same could be said for all of the other goods and services that you use.
Perhaps you should remove the beam from your eye before pointing out the splinter in anothers
Said electronic device is a requirement to hold a job in my country and ensure I don't end up homeless. It's the same as owning a car here. If you have neither a phone or a reliable form of transport (meaning a car in this public transit-less shithole of a country), getting and holding a job is incredibly difficult.
This is one of the reasons that the UN has considered access to the internet a basic human right as of the 2000s or so.
Owning a phone and using the orphan crushing machine to make funny pictures on the internet are not equal.
Here's my shitty drawing of something AI can't draw
That's actually pretty good depiction of a chunk of roast beef with a revolving rotor attached to it and flying upwards.