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[–] JasonDJ@lemmy.zip 2 points 1 hour ago

I'm a white boy but in highschool my best friend was 1st-generation Chinese-American.

His parents owned a Chinese restaurant that I worked at...Americanized Chinese, like everyone in America is used to.

While I worked there his parents also opened up an authentic Chinese restaurant.

Most of the stuff on the menu, Americans would ball at. There were dead ducks and pigs hanging in the window.

But I tried cow tongue there for the first time. It was amazing. And something else with white sauce I don't remember what it was but it was so damn good.

I had a falling out with him, and the parents lost their restaurants in COVID.

[–] ScoffingLizard@lemmy.dbzer0.com 11 points 6 hours ago* (last edited 6 hours ago) (1 children)

Fuck all of you. Go to New Orleans in a week when crawfish season starts and eat some mud bugs, some blackened redfish, jambalaya, gumbo, cajun crawfish etouffee, etc. Best food in the world.

Also, king cakes.

[–] maplesaga@lemmy.world 1 points 4 hours ago (1 children)

What else is there to do there?

[–] rustyj@lemmy.world 1 points 2 hours ago

They told you all the best stuff honestly. If you're into alcohol you'll have no trouble finding it. Amazing city though. The food culture there is incredible.

[–] baggachipz@sh.itjust.works 60 points 16 hours ago (6 children)

Every culture takes/mixes foods from other cultures and makes it their own. I think the difference with the US is that there isn’t an ancient history to form a basis.

[–] BigBananaDealer@lemmy.world 8 points 5 hours ago (2 children)

way to brush off thousands of year of native american dishes :/

[–] Urist@leminal.space 1 points 1 hour ago

In significant swathes of the US the natives were more or less successfully exterminated so there's no clear cultural line from ancient natives to the people living there today.

[–] baggachipz@sh.itjust.works 1 points 2 hours ago

Stop it, you know what I mean. I’m talking European colonials which formed the basis for the modern US, even if it shouldn’t be that way. They stole Native American food too. The combination of these things formed the basis of “American” cuisine, but it wasn’t long ago in a historical sense.

[–] exasperation@lemmy.dbzer0.com 22 points 14 hours ago

Every culture takes/mixes foods from other cultures and makes it their own.

Perhaps more importantly, every generation remixes their parents' and grandparents' food.

French, Italian, Japanese, Korean, Chinese, and Mexican food aren't the same as they were 50 years ago. Lots of new dishes were invented and remixed, sometimes from imported influence. It's not like chefs sit around and refuse to do anything different from how they learned. They do invent and innovate and tweak recipes. That's, like, the job.

[–] altphoto@lemmy.today 8 points 12 hours ago (1 children)

Ketchup as close as we know it comes from the Philippines right? So there goes that whole thing.

[–] plm00@lemmy.ml 10 points 12 hours ago (1 children)

And the word "ketchup" is Chinese.

[–] altphoto@lemmy.today 4 points 12 hours ago

Maybe its Chinese altogether since Chinese and other Asian people would travel to the Philippines to catch a ride to the US and Mexico to then go to Europe. They would leave a trial of kids and culture back and forth. Similarly Mexicans in the Philippines, Europe and even Japan and China do exist.

[–] frog@feddit.uk 6 points 12 hours ago

Yes. I view Chinese American food as American food. Sweet General Tso's Chicken, orange chicken, fortune cookies, crab rangoons, etc. Basically anything they overly sweetened.

[–] MacNCheezus@lemmy.today 6 points 15 hours ago (1 children)

Most of what constitutes “traditional” American cuisine is broadly based on European traditions, with British, French, Italian, and German influences being the most dominant. Though many of the recipes have changed and evolved over time, you can still see the influences pretty clearly.

Take the classic Thanksgiving dinner, for instance: although many of the ingredients (such as sweet potatoes and turkey) were unknown in Europe, the way they are prepared is still very similar to how Europeans prepare traditional holiday roasts.

Also, a “proper” meal generally consists of a chunk of meat, veggies, and carbs, usually all prepared separately, or sometimes as a casserole or a stew. Stir-frying is not that common, for instance, but frying, roasting and baking is. If you look into the history of any particular American dish, its roots can often be traced back to the exact wave of immigration that went on to popularize it.

Depending on the region, however, you may also find Native American influences, such as Creole, Cajun, Tex-Mex, etc.

[–] Goatboy@lemmy.today 8 points 14 hours ago (1 children)

I'm glad someone brought up Native American influence. It's more widespread in American food than people realize.

[–] MacNCheezus@lemmy.today 3 points 10 hours ago (1 children)

I mean, technically, even the use of tomatoes or potatoes is Native American influence. Except those have become so ubiquitous in European cuisine that no one would even consider for a moment that they were completely unknown there just 500 years ago. Imagine Italian food without tomatoes, or German food without potatoes…

Corn as well, though that didn’t catch on quite as much on the continent, where it’s still mostly a boring vegetable, while Americans use it to bake as well (not to mention putting it into literally everything ever since they figured out HFCS).

[–] Goatboy@lemmy.today 2 points 10 hours ago

Im particularly fond of hominy and other alkaline treated corn products.

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[–] fell@discuss.tchncs.de 33 points 17 hours ago* (last edited 17 hours ago) (6 children)

My wife is Australian, but we live in Germany now. Last year, she was craving "Honey Chicken" which is ubiquitous at Chinese takeaway places in Australia. None of the Chinese places in Germany knew what I was talking about. Turns out Honey Chicken is a purely Australian invention.

[–] frog@feddit.uk 3 points 12 hours ago (1 children)

Sounds good! Is it close to orange chicken or General Tso's chicken in the USA?

[–] dariusj18@lemmy.world 7 points 12 hours ago (2 children)

We have honey chicken commonly in the US too. It is essentially orange chicken without the orange flavor/color.

[–] Tja@programming.dev 2 points 5 hours ago

So, chicken? /s

[–] LifeInMultipleChoice@lemmy.world 1 points 5 hours ago* (last edited 5 hours ago)

Yeah our "Chinese" places usually just do chicken in a bunch of ways that may or may not be from Asia.

Chicken with Broccoli, Chicken and snow peas or mixed vegetables, Moo Goo Gai Pan, Curry Chicken, Szechuan Chicken, Mongolian Chicken, Kung Pao, Chicken with Cashews, Hunan with black bean sauce, hot and spicy, black pepper w/ onion, Coconut, sweet and sour, lemon, honey, sesame, Bourbon, Orange, General Tsos.

Is it all Chinese influence, no. The people making it know, the people eating it know, but if they called it "Chicken Many ways" then you wouldn't know they sold dumplings, pork and what not, lol.

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[–] PotatoesFall@discuss.tchncs.de 71 points 20 hours ago* (last edited 20 hours ago) (17 children)

Fusion kitchens are the best and maybe the only good thing to come out of colonialism. Indonesian-Dutch food slaps. Vietnamiese-French cuisine kicks my ass. Must I bring up Italian coffee or Swiss chocolate? Turkish-German Döner is so popular it is sold basically everywhere now.

[–] TipRing@lemmy.world 1 points 6 hours ago

I had tex-mex / Indian fusion once and it was surprisingly good.

[–] jballs@sh.itjust.works 2 points 8 hours ago

Turkish-German Döner is so popular it is sold basically everywhere now.

I fucking wish. I lived in France 20+ years ago and loved the stuff. Came back to the US and have been waiting to see a good Döner kebab for over 2 decades now.

[–] gAlienLifeform@lemmy.world 8 points 15 hours ago

Fusion kitchens are the best and maybe the only good thing to come out of colonialism

Well, there's also a pretty good music that jazz doesn't happen the way it did without putting European instruments in the hands of formerly enslaved Africans. Would be a lot cooler world if we could figure out how to evolve our art and culture without crimes against humanity, tho.

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[–] DagwoodIII@piefed.social 9 points 16 hours ago (1 children)

[off topic?]

Great classic mystery novel, "Too Many Cooks" by Rex Stout. Nero Wolfe is a 300 pound private detective who hates leaving his Manhattan brownstone. He investigates from his armchair, sending his assistant Archie Goodwin to round up clues and bring him folks to interrogate.

Wolfe is a famous gourmand and is invited to give a speech on American food to a group of European chefs.

Interesting novel on many levels.

[–] Burninator05@lemmy.world 10 points 15 hours ago (3 children)
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