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Israel’s foreign minister has said that an arms embargo on his country would lead to the elimination of the Israeli state and “a second Holocaust”.

Gideon Saar was speaking on Tuesday at an international conference on antisemitism in Jerusalem.

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[–] unexposedhazard@discuss.tchncs.de 46 points 5 days ago (3 children)

The eliminiation of the Israeli state doesnt have to cause a second holocaust. Just go back to where you, your parents and your grandparents lived before you invaded other peoples homes.

[–] geneva_convenience@lemmy.ml 29 points 5 days ago (1 children)

But it's way easier to kill some people in the Middle East and give their land away than taking actual responsibilty for the Holocaust.

And more profitable 💰

[–] glimse@lemmy.world 14 points 5 days ago (1 children)

Netanyahu would have to go back to Philadelphia

[–] corsicanguppy@lemmy.ca 6 points 4 days ago (1 children)
[–] Reddfugee42@lemmy.world 1 points 4 days ago

Sir, Philadelphia is on the line. They say it's urgent.

[–] Enkers@sh.itjust.works -4 points 5 days ago* (last edited 5 days ago) (3 children)

I'm firmly against the Palestinian genocide, but, isn't this a little ridiculous? Shouldn't we just focus on ending the killings and stopping further colonization?

Like, as a 4th generation Canadian, do I need to go back to Ireland to make up for my great great grandparent's generation's gross history of colonial genocide?

You don't need to evict Jewish people to end Zionism.

[–] BrainInABox@lemmy.ml 18 points 5 days ago (1 children)

The difference is that there are quite a lot of Palestinians alive today who had their homes stolen, and Israel keeps stealing more everyday. And they do it because they have always been allowed to keep what they stole in the past.

[–] Enkers@sh.itjust.works -1 points 5 days ago* (last edited 5 days ago) (1 children)

Yeah, so give Palestinians right of return. There's plenty of land there to share. Make Israelis pay reparations.

Like how is the land I'm living on not functionally stolen? My entire country used to be Indigenous land, and it became as it is because it was "allowed" (forced).

The Jewish children who were born there aren't colonists, and they shouldn't have to suffer for their parents' colonial acts.

The main imperative is to end the ongoing colonialism and genocide.

[–] BrainInABox@lemmy.ml 12 points 4 days ago

Yeah, so give Palestinians right of return.

That would require expelling a huge number of Israelis, given they literally live in stolen houses. One in every ten Israelis lives in illegal West Bank settlements

Make Israelis pay reparations.

That would require defeating Israel in a war.

Like how is the land I’m living on not functionally stolen?

It is, but at least you didn't literally steal your literal house from a person who is still alive today..

The Jewish children who were born there aren’t colonists

And the Israeli colonists currently driving people out of their houses to take them over and have children there know that you think this, which is why they're stealing land in such a way as to make a Palestine state impossible without kicking them out.

The main imperative is to end the ongoing colonialism and genocide.

Which is impossible while the illegal settlements remain.

[–] unexposedhazard@discuss.tchncs.de 11 points 4 days ago (1 children)

Its really not ridiculous. Imagine if the west still kept all its african colonies that were captured during WW2 times. Thats what Israel is, only that it is even younger. Basically all of its jewish population is either first or second generation immigrants/settlers.

[–] Auntievenim@lemmy.world -2 points 5 days ago

go back to Ireland

Sis... do you think Ireland had colonies?

[–] MetalMachine@feddit.nl 27 points 4 days ago

"Does israel have a right to exist?"

The answer to this is: did nazi Germany have a right to exist?

[–] gothiccwaifu@lemm.ee 36 points 5 days ago

That’s some expert-level DARVO right there.

[–] Rom@hexbear.net 25 points 4 days ago

Stopping me from doing genocide is literally genocide.

[–] geneva_convenience@lemmy.ml 32 points 5 days ago
[–] land@lemmy.dbzer0.com 29 points 5 days ago
[–] Etterra@discuss.online 27 points 5 days ago

Oh but it's okay when Israel does it? Fucking hypocrites.

[–] Grumpyleb@lemmus.org 24 points 5 days ago

They can all fuck right off. There is so much I'd like to say but I cannot because I will be accused of inciting violence. Funny how Right wing and zionist incitement is allowed on social media, but when anyone left leaning says anything immediate bans. I'm hoping something of biblical proportions happens in Israel. Maybe it will turn into a self fulfilling prophesy, anyway, these are words, I can't encourage anyone other than any gods out there to rain sulfer and all that. I sympathise with the left wing Jews in Israel, but unfortunately, the genocide continues and this is their governement. Much like Maga now is, like it or not, the face of America, well Genocide is now the face of Israel.

[–] Fishroot@hexbear.net 20 points 5 days ago* (last edited 4 days ago)

Israel is basically a rich kid with a dad who bails him out for ramming people with his Ferrari on a main street and still wants people to feel bad about his trauma

[–] Makhno@lemmy.world 16 points 5 days ago (1 children)

Good. Fuck israel. I hope to see it burn.

[–] Lyra_Lycan@lemmy.blahaj.zone 9 points 5 days ago

The irony is this violence is not from you. It spawned from Israel's own actions. And when will they learn that their actions have consequences

[–] phoenixz@lemmy.ca 7 points 4 days ago (1 children)

Second holocaust?

Dude, you are committing the second holocaust, so that technically would be the third.

Having said that, aren't you kind of the reason why that would happen in the first place? Israel has had more than enough opportunities to make peace with everyone around it a hundred times over and so far all it has done is investing in making sure that shit got worse, like actually funding Hamas so that they could fight Hamas harder.

You dug your own grave here, I won't push you in it, but I also won't cry for you if you decide to jump in it

[–] jsomae@lemmy.ml 4 points 4 days ago

assuming holocaust=genocide, then this is not the second. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_genocides

[–] sparky@lemmy.federate.cc 7 points 4 days ago

Well not to split hairs, but seeing as they are currently perpetrating Second Holocaust, it would have to be more like Third Holocaust. But the problem with the Israeli comments is that unarmed civilians aren’t very effective at holocausts.

[–] AnalogNotDigital@lemmy.wtf 1 points 4 days ago

Maybe, just maybe, if you wanted to exist peacefully with your neighbors you'd stop indiscriminately bombing civilians and violating their civil rights.

Those people deserve to live in peace just as much as you. Stop being the aggressor. It's not fucking hard.