Critical_Thinker

"Everything is everyone else's fault! Why can't everyone see that my way is better for me and my interests?!?!?!"

Sorry donnie, we do see it.

Pichai kissed the ring. He's colluding with the person who tried to overturn the elections and install himself as a ruler.

All of the billionaires that were at the inauguration are in the same boat. I'm at a point where I believe the crimes of any of them should be tried and convicted with the punishments being doled out collectively to all colluders, but that's me.

I'd be going for the death penalty from the prosecution side, since it seems like that is what we do now to people who cause one or more people to die, no matter how unethical the victim(s) were.

They do not understand and the understanding they have has been formed with propaganda for decades.

American politics has been so far from it's idealistic roots in democracy and supplanted by the wealthy for decades if not a century or longer. Allowing businesses to fund campaigns openly in the 70s has to have been a big tipping point and why we have allowed it is bizarre to me. We have basically no media today that isn't highly politicized one way or another. Bezos has altered his media to fit whatever party furthers it's business goals... like most oligarch owned businesses following suit whether or not they are media.

I don't think things can be changed anymore though. I think pandora's box opened at some point and it can't be shut again without tearing civilization down.

They paid in cash per TFA

So do you expect self driving tech to override human action? or do you expect human action to override self driving tech?

I expect the human to override the system, not the other way around. Nobody claims to have a system that requires no human input, aside from limited and experimental implementations that are not road legal nationwide. I kind of expect human input to override the robot given the fear of robots making mistakes despite the humans behind them getting into them drunk and holding down the throttle until they turn motorcyclists into red mist. But that's my assumption.

With the boca one specifically, the guy got in his car inebriated. That was the first mistake that caused the problem that should never have happened. If the car was truly self driving automated and had no user input, this wouldn't have happened. It wouldn't have gone nearly 2.5x the speed limit. It would have braked long in advance before hitting someone in the road.

I have a ninja 650. We all know the danger comes from things we cannot control, such as others. I'd trust an actually automated car over a human driver always, even with limited modern tech. The second the user gets an input though? zero trust.

FTFA:

Certain Tesla self-driving technologies are speed capped, but others are not. Simply pressing the accelerator will raise your speed in certain modes, and as we saw in the police filings from the Washington State case, pressing the accelerator also cancels emergency braking.

That’s how you would strike a motorcyclist at such extreme speed, simply press the accelerator and all other inputs are apparently overridden.

If the guy smashes the gas, just like in cruise control I would not expect the vehicle to stop itself.

The guy admitted to being intoxicted and held the gas down... what's the self driving contribution to that?

Did I ask a terrible question, or do you just not like anything being objective about the issue? I'm so far over on the left side ideologically that you'd be hard pressed finding an issue that i'm conservative on. I don't fit the dem mold though, i'm more of a bernie.... though I am very critical in general. I don't just take things at face value. Anywho...

Saying that the statistics aren't great just lends credence to the fact that we can't objectively determine how safe or unsafe anything is without good data.

Let's get this out of the way: Felon Musk is a nazi asshole.

Anyway, It should be criminal to do these comparisons without showing human drivers statistics for reference. I'm so sick of articles that leave out hard data. Show me deaths per billion miles driven for tesla, competitors, and humans.

Then there's shit like the boca raton crash, where they mention the car going 100 in a 45 and killing a motorcyclist, and then go on to say the only way to do that is to physically use the gas pedal and that it disables emergency breaking. Is it really a self driving car at that point when a user must actively engage to disable portions of the automation? If you take an action to override stopping, it's not self driving. Stopping is a key function of how self driving tech self drives. It's not like the car swerved to another lane and nailed someone, the driver literally did this.

Bottom line I look at the media around self driving tech as sensationalist. Danger drives clicks. Felon Musk is a nazi asshole, but self driving tech isn't made by the guy. it's made by engineers. I wouldn't buy a tesla unless he has no stake in the business, but I do believe people are far more dangerous behind the wheel in basically all typical driving scenarios.

It's because the wealthy run things, and the victim was wealthy.

Game, set and match.

cause meet effect

I can't believe investors were OK with him selling twitter to another company he co-owns.

Sounds like a small claims court case or something. Abhorrent.

Yeah, you guys made a lot of mistakes. How about you take your thumbs out of your asses, say fuck it to partisanship, and vote your fucking conscious instead of just rubber stamping what your cheeto tells you to do.

If you all stand up to the guy all his power is gone. He only has power over your party because you all give it to him. The nation is only dysfunctional because you just carte blanch vote down anything that isn't created and edited by your party even if it's the best thing for your constituents.