HalfSalesman

Microsoft's Copilot funnily enough actually provides sources that it pulls from the internet if you ask it to.

No. They buy Apple & Nintendo because of brand loyalty and their social significance.

Have you not seen how deranged they get about those companies products? Nintendo fans lose their minds if someone dare criticize a Mario, Metroid, and especially Zelda games.

Apple fanatics think every new product is a revolution even though some other company or organization has usually already beat them to the punch.

Further, Windows, PS5, & Xbox are are not their only competition. And even then, they are enshitiffied now but that doesn't explain Nintendo and Apple fans behavior before those competitors became this way.

He'd have a McDonald's menu, not Wendy's.

The rare day one purchase.

Welp, finally the year to do my first playthrough of Hollow Knight.

I enjoy Sudoku, but that is something I learned. There is no “enjoy sudoko” element within me that I did not put there myself.

You didn't enjoy learning Sudoku in the first place? Did you have to force yourself? Did someone teach you how to enjoy sodoku after you learned how to actually play?

Maybe there isn't a specific Sudoku drive in human beings but that's not what intrinsically means. There is an intrinsic drive to follow your natural intellectual and physical interests that do not have to be taught. They are variable depending on the person's personal inclinations, but you are not "trained" to enjoy something. Even as seemingly fundamental like reading. You might have to learn how to read first, but that's not being "trained to enjoy" reading. Whether you enjoy it depends on the type of person you are.

Like, if I saw someone doing something that looks fun or interesting, I'd want to participate intrinsically.

If someone offered me money to participate I would be extrinsically motivated.

They did. Everyone I knew back in the Windows 3.1 days already had computers. Most of those people didn’t have Windows, and used standalone applications. The increase in ownership came when hardware prices finally fell enough for them to be affordable. Windows development was a result of that uptick, not the cause.

I mean, maybe, price is obviously a compelling aspect here. Its hard to separate correlation and causation, though I'll hand you that price was probably more compelling.

That said, the people you knew who already owned computers were part of a minority, only about 15% of American households had a computer when Windows 3.1 released.

Dude, in a previous job I had a superior aggressively refuse to let me teach him how to do some extremely basic things on his computer (he'd just call me over to do it whenever he needed it done) and told me he did not know what an internet browser was (he used one everyday).

Now, I did not understand his thought process, but he exists. There are 100% people who understand the basics but experience intense cognitive stress at the mere sight of a command line.

Blocks don't hide your posts from them or prevent them from responding to your comments.

In the short stint that I bothered trying to use a dating app I just swiped right on people I was attracted to and seemed compatible based on their bio.

If I wasn't physically attracted to them it wouldn't work anyway so IDK why I'd want to waste my time???

But yeah I gave up not because of the swiping/algo but because in a few cases people misrepresented themselves or were overly vague in their bios. In one case someone swiped right on me but then changed their mind because the reread my bio (read the fucking bio in the first place people) or in one case we had made plans to hook up and so I kind of got busy and stopped messaging them for a few days, they messaged me annoyed that I was not showering them in consistent attention and disconnected.

After that I was like, online dating sucks fuck this, and uninstalled.

The only things that people “intrinsically” want are food and fornication. Everything else, they have been taught and trained.

EVERYTHING? I enjoy doing things that aren't eating and sex on a intrinsic level that I was never trained to enjoy. I just... wanted to do those things. A lot of things are intrinsically fun that are not eating and sex.

The training they have received from Microsoft domination has been “don’t learn how to use a computer”.

Why didn't people adopt personal computers en masse before Windows came to be then? After Windows 3.0, personal ownership of computers more than doubled over the course of 5-6 years and then continued to balloon, speeding up adoption well beyond the previous decade.

Look, I'm not a fan of Microsoft either but this is conspiracism.

Microsoft is not the reason I believe its a pipedream to turn people into computer techs. Its a cold hard reality.

Even particularly smart people have to want to be computer techs. I work with teachers, genuinely smart people, who have zero desire or motivation to learn computer use outside how it can help them teach in a fairly "if its not broke don't fix it" mentality. They aren't incurious but they have limited time and resources and they use such elsewhere. My attempts to get them to even try Linux Mint has thus far failed, the idea that I could get them to learn CLI is absurd.

Don't get me wrong, I believe even dim wits could learn to be computer techs and use a command line, but that requires them to want that. Most people do not intrinsically desire that.

What is your goal? Are you content with Linux being niche?

If not, what group do you think this appeals to?

The casual device user continues to ignore Windows desktops and use their phone let alone Linux at this point.

The normie desktop user who just wants a internet browser and basic office software can easily be won over to Linux Mint. You advocating everything be CLI based will kill that.

The casual desktop enthusiast & PC gamer will get irritated and impatient and go back to comfy Windows. They mostly just want their games to run smoothly and maybe look pretty. Maybe install an application that does something moderately technical for them with tweaks here and there.

You already have the hardcore techy users. They don't need to be converted.

In my opinion, Linux and its various distro's main goal ought to be to undermine for-profit OS. Not to turn everyone into computer techs. The latter is a pipe dream anyway.