Vergissmeinnicht

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[–] Vergissmeinnicht@lemmy.ca 13 points 1 day ago

First, the United States undermined Ukrainian sovereignty by sponsoring a coup.

Same lie as before, there was no coup.

Nuclear blahblah

Look at a fucking map. Ukraine is only marginally closer to Moscow than Latvia. And by the same logic Russia should have invaded Finland before they could join NATO right next to Saint Petersburg but they didn't, because it's all complete bullshit and lies.

Just fucking stop.

[–] Vergissmeinnicht@lemmy.ca 11 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (2 children)

NATO is an aggressive military alliance that has sought to encircle Russia since the USSR collapsed

Again, only aggressive if Russia has territorial ambitions on its neighbours. Otherwise completely benign. The fact that you consider it aggressive betrays the fact that you know Russia has had territorial ambitions against its neighbours from the start. Making everything else useless verbal diarrhea.

It also betrays your imperialist way of thinking, denying Russia's neighbours their sovereign right to join whichever military alliance they choose.

[–] Vergissmeinnicht@lemmy.ca 29 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (6 children)

first by overthrowing their democracy

They didn't. They legally removed a Russian agent that was passing a series of very antidemocratic laws.

threatening Russia by attempting to join NATO

Joining a defensive alliance is only a threat to an aggressor, so thanks for your admission I guess.

and claiming that they have the right to obtain nuclear weapons.

They wouldn't have of Russia hadn't invaded

It's all 100% on Russia.

But you know that already. That's the worst part. You're not misinformed, you're a liar.

[–] Vergissmeinnicht@lemmy.ca 9 points 3 days ago

They care a lot.

About all the money they're making.

[–] Vergissmeinnicht@lemmy.ca 15 points 3 days ago (1 children)

didn't realize the RCMP was gonna get an airforce and unlimited supply of bombs.

[–] Vergissmeinnicht@lemmy.ca 13 points 3 days ago

They're going to be so incredibly screwed if Ukraine ever manages to take out the Omsk refinery

[–] Vergissmeinnicht@lemmy.ca 2 points 4 days ago (1 children)

Wouldn't it be pretty much lights out for the whole country in pretty short order? Almost half of their electricity generation is from natural gas.

Ukraine should be able to pretty quickly hit all their refineries, fuel, oil, and gas storage, and gas pipeline connections to Russia, and the country just stops functioning. Hit the transformer station at their single NPP and interconnects with Russia and it's pretty much a complete blackout and not a rolling one either, just no more electricity, period. Unlike Ukraine they can't be supplied from outside because their only friendly neighbour is already struggling themselves...

And Lukashenko would know that. No chance in hell he would ever risk that.

[–] Vergissmeinnicht@lemmy.ca 7 points 6 days ago (2 children)

Yeah, seems difficult to guess how it will affect Europe. Certainly no more ice free coastlines in the north during winter though.

But for North America it might end up much worse.

The hot water will stay in the Gulf of Mexico, so hurricanes might end up being insane.

[–] Vergissmeinnicht@lemmy.ca 18 points 6 days ago (1 children)

that's what makes me feel like Russia is screwed.

Those missiles are just strolling in and Russia seems unable to deal with them.

We seem to be seeing such strikes every day now. What will happen in another six months when Ukraine can produce 2-3 times as many such missiles?

[–] Vergissmeinnicht@lemmy.ca 2 points 1 week ago

or, if possible, tunnels.

[–] Vergissmeinnicht@lemmy.ca 8 points 1 week ago

you completely missed the point they were making. It has absolutely nothing to do with consumers suffering in the US.

[–] Vergissmeinnicht@lemmy.ca 2 points 1 week ago

It doesn't make much sense to hit the pipelines if the refining infrastructure is broken. In that case they don't have anything to send through the pipelines anymore anyway.

For oil yes, of course. But for gas it's my understanding that it's processed closer to the extraction sites, so it might not necessarily be in reach (yet). Although it seems like Ukraine just hit a gas processing plant in Orenburg a few days ago.

If Ukraine can extend their reach to 2500-3000km then they could probably reach most gas processing plants.

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