cinnabarfaun

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[–] cinnabarfaun@lemmy.world 7 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago) (4 children)

Do you like taco bell? Do you see value in fast food existing as a convenience?

If you think that fast food jobs shouldn't exist at all (and everyone should have the means and the free time to make food at home, with accommodations for those who physically can't cook for themselves), I have more sympathy with your position (even though I still disagree with some of your opinions). But if you want fast food, retail, or any similar services to keep existing, someone will always have to work in those poorly-valued jobs. And I don't think they deserve less than the rest of us.

Tbh I think the average fast food employee works a hell of a lot harder during their shift than I do at mine. I'm sitting at my desk typing on social media right now; the guy at the taco bell next door is standing in a hot kitchen, pumping out quesadillas for hours. Sure, my job requires more specific skills, but now that I already have those skills, I'm not laboring more strenuously to use them. If my education had been free, and I didn't need a higher wage to pay off my student debt/catch up for the years I hadn't spent working? I don't think I'd "deserve" more than the taco bell guy.

[–] cinnabarfaun@lemmy.world 2 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago) (1 children)

Not sure what you mean. Americans do brew hot coffee, but they generally don't use a kettle to brew it. Hand-brewing methods like pour over are a very recent trend here. In my experience growing up, the vast majority of households used an electric drip coffee machine, or a stovetop percolator before they had electricity. Even now, when pour over and the aeropress are starting to get popular, I'd wager that a vast majority of households are still using a machine - either a drip machine or one of those pod machines - rather than a brewing method that requires a kettle.

Edit: found some stats on American home coffee brewing. Among Americans who brew coffee at home, 48% tend to use a drip machine, and 29% use a pod machine, neither of which requires a kettle. If we assume the entire pour over (5%) and French press (5%) market owns a kettle, and that the entire "other" category (6%) owns a kettle (which seems very generous), that's still only 16% of home coffee drinkers using a kettle. (Another 7% use an espresso machine or percolator, and I think the last 1% was lost to rounding.)

[–] cinnabarfaun@lemmy.world 8 points 1 month ago (1 children)

Unfortunately for every tea drinker in an American hotel, most coffee makers (at least the drip kind) will make any water boiled inside taste like coffee, unless they've been used exclusively for plain boiled water. Maybe a combo tea/coffee drinker wouldn't mind, but I've always found it intolerable.

But it's a good point about the grid - we have plenty of appliances for coffee that are principally glorified water boilers, and there's no evidence that our appliance voltage has hampered their popularity at all.

[–] cinnabarfaun@lemmy.world 6 points 1 month ago (1 children)

I think this is the largest reason right here. People are naturally going to reserve their limited counter space for the stuff they use daily. For Americans, that's more likely to be some kind of coffee maker than an electric kettle.

Growing up where I did, I knew a lot of families that regularly made iced tea. But they usually made a gallon at a time, once or twice a week, and still drank coffee every day - so they had counter top coffee makers, and stovetop kettles that could be stored away the rest of the week.

[–] cinnabarfaun@lemmy.world 51 points 1 month ago (5 children)

Great video on this from technology connections. tl;dr it takes more time, but not, like, that much more. We mostly just don't have a huge tea-drinking culture here.

My family (American) did drink a lot of tea. Surprise surprise, we had a kettle. I did not die of old age from the cumulative weight of all that waiting.