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The solution is to go to subscribe to Reddit RSS feeds so that we find stuff to repost here.
(Only half-joking)
Setting up parallel sending also would require more resources on their part.
It is your problem to fix, yet you are only willing to take action if the solution comes in the form that is most convenient to you. I genuinely don't understand why, but I guess it's between you and the users on your instance.
You won't be making any changes to Lemmy source code itself, that's what I mean. I wouldn't count adding something that is independent from the service as "customizing it", but if that is what you meant, fine.
That setup required an additional server for AZ
What I had in mind would be to run the relay myself, and you would only have to set up/manage an extra service that could run along your Lemmy process.
You seem to think (...) we're willfully not taking an action that we should be taking.
Well, yes? You have the possibility to take the initiative and mitigate an issue that is affecting your users, and you can solve the problem independently of the third-party's cooperation. Why put yourself at the mercy of others when you have enough power and agency?
Looks like everything worked fine except for pulling posts via the search API.
If you want to direct the efforts to move there I'd join you.
I’m not interested in customising the AZ server configuration more than it already is
There would be no customization of Lemmy itself. You'd only have to add a sidecar service.
If you don't want to do it, fine, no one can force you to. But then perhaps it would be nice to be transparent with your users and tell them that the delay in federation can be avoided.
I responded to you before I had my coffee, so I didn't realize that you are one of the admins for aussie.zone.
I will tell you what: I am 100% sure that I can write a service that can work as a bulk message relay and I'm equally sure that I can modify Fediverser's code to make it able to ingest data from the relay. If you want to join Lemmy's Matrix Room, we can chat to see how to best solve this.
the Lemmy devs are funded by NLNet donations and user donations, no business LW, lemm.ee, lemmy.zip, all of the top 20 or 50 instances are funded via donations
You are looking at this super-tiny space of "the Threadiverse" and taking it as the whole "social media landscape". This is textbook example of selection bias.
How much do you want to bet that we will see a Reddit-like alternative built on ATProto by the end of the year? Which one do you think will have a better chance of success: the application that is starting of a potential userbase 1M MAU or the one with 25M+? How was Bluesky funded? Was it via donations?
Network effect can’t be fought by money
No, but money can buy infrastructure and development which is sorely needed. We are not limited because people don't want to leave the walled gardens. They are eager to leave, but we keep failing to offer them an usable alternative.
The reason that Fediverse doesn't grow is not because of any single particular feature of the other alternatives. It's quite easy to say "Bluesky won over Mastodon because it has better content discovery" or "Matrix is not a good alternative to Discord because it is slow and has a moderation problem", but all of these tiny things are not fundamental issues. They can all be fixed, but they just don't get fixed fast enough because these organizations are lacking in resources compared to the VC funded alternatives.
Funding is like oxygen. Organisms that do not have circulatory systems can only grow to the size of insects. If we keep constraining ourselves to only these very limited sources of funding, we will be forever bound to this tiny insignificant niche space.
There is absolutely nothing in the AP spec that prevents people from pulling data from the outboxes instead of waiting to be pushed.
Alright, so I just learned about !fediverse@forum.wedistribute.org. It's a NodeBB instance run by the WeDistribute team, led by @deadsuperhero@lemmy.world and it can interoperate with Lemmy and Mastodon and the mbin family of software.
Can we agree that it is a better fit than any of the existing alternatives?
If you prefer to avoid the conversation on the basis of "unpleasantness" instead of facing the arguments that are being presented to you, it's your choice.
But at least show some decency and willingness to admit you were wrong and consider that maybe the best way to get a sustainable, healthy and universal Fediverse (i.e, not just a niche thing that barely reaches 1M MAU) is by having small businesses around?
If you want to suggest features or improvements, please take a look at the Github repository.