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@guest @cronenthal And like so many pointed out: you don't own those movies. As painful as that realization might be. You bought a license to watch them for as long as Amazon deems it beneficial to their bottomline to offer them. They pulled the same shit with books.

And I too am of the conviction that if buying isn't owning, then downloading isn't stealing.

@guest @cronenthal I for my part decided to buy DVD and Blu Ray again. Many of them are a steal at flea markets etc.

@lejapproach @taketwo @SrMono @neons @WeAreFairphone I know you will. Thank you. No questions right now as I am still waiting for my C2 to be shipped. Do you use it as a daily driver?

@lejapproach @taketwo @SrMono @neons @WeAreFairphone Growth is achieved by taking one small step after another. Using systems that are fit for purpose is one.

What they need is money, encouragement and our support and objective feedback where we can give it. If we, the nerds and privacy advocates keep bashing them for such teething issues, this will truly never go anywhere.

With the whole #unplugtrump thing going on that gives more momentum and interest for them. Lets do this together!

@lejapproach @taketwo @SrMono @neons @WeAreFairphone And for Jolla: ordered two weeks ago, to see the OS myself. Not a peep since then.

Ultimately all those small companies are underfunded. You need solid systems, good people, processes in place to handle backorders (I can demand will only increase), a team to communicate well. etc to make it really work.

Maybe Odoo chipping in? Just a thought (or daydream) if all those like minded companies could start collaborating on some level...

@lejapproach @taketwo @SrMono @neons @WeAreFairphone Not only that. Those privacy first / data sovereign companies are a good idea. Don't get me wrong.

But they still have a LOT of work to do on the logistics and customer service side too.

Ordered a Murena tab. On the site it said in stock, shipping in 2-3 days. Two weeks later I checked in asking for an update, the response took a week.

Ran OOS but no one was notified. Took about 1.5 months to arrive.

@taketwo @SrMono @neons @WeAreFairphone And I completely missed postmarket OS somehow... I read that name occasionally in discussions and dismissed it as yet another Lineage clone and never dug deeper. So yeah, needing awareness is a thing.

Playing with UT on my FP4 at the moment and I really like a lot of what I see, but it really needs some serious TLC. No really workable mail client, browser severily out of date, limited options to sync contacts and calendar. No support for secure messenger

@taketwo @SrMono @neons @WeAreFairphone So basically we are both arguing to make the same point from different angles. 🤣

@taketwo @SrMono @neons @WeAreFairphone Maturity and ease of install for the general consumer.

Like I wrote most of the masses have no clue things can be done differently, that alternatives are even available, what they do etc. and doing it themselves is too complicated for them. Think about your immediate family or friends. Who of them even understands what you are going on about?

Most in my circle look at me a) like I am doing something illegal or like I am b) a paranoid conspiracy nut.

@taketwo @SrMono @neons @WeAreFairphone why are you so insitent on Google Services? Who needs them? (Really) Have been living without them for 4+ years and everything works just fine.

@taketwo @SrMono @neons @WeAreFairphone And offering the alternative OS would show many consumers that there ARE alternatives out there. Most ordinary people have never even heard about the things we are so casually discussing here.

Many just want to just use the device and wouldn't be able to flash ROMs etc. So many people are perfectly happy and fine if they know how to turn on their computer to watch YT, send mails, write letters and do their budget. We nerds tend to forget that.

@taketwo @SrMono @neons @WeAreFairphone And your point is?

They already do work with Murena. Keep in mind Fairphone is still a very small company, compared to others, with limited resources. They can't do it all on their own. And each Fairphone sold is contributing to the idea there is a way to do things differently than what happens now.

Until things like #jolla or #VollaOS and #ubuntutouch gain significant traction (especially UT needs a revival), they are our best chance.