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A community about the /e/ Operating System developed by e Foundation.

/e/OS is a degoogled version of Android. It aims to be a good balance between privacy and usability. Forked from Lineage OS.

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submitted 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) by illectrility@lemmy.world to c/e_os@lemmy.world
 
 

In this community you can ask questions or talk about the degoogled AOSP based operating system /e/OS. Enjoy!

Maybe your question has already been answered here. If not, feel free to post!

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Hi As title suggests I'm in need for a new phone and been looking at the fairphone 6 e/os. I like the idea of no Google.

But have been used to android and googles convenience... Been trying to find out if my bank apps will work (HSBC, revolut, Santander and mbna)

Also deezer as I'm getting conflicting information.

Any information is greatly appreciated

Thanks

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cross-posted from: https://sopuli.xyz/post/30537132

cross-posted from: https://lemmy.world/post/33092121

As promised, here's my full review of the Fairphone Gen 6. It is going to be a little longer than i expected...

Let me start by explaining why i chose this device. Well, i just really like Fairphone as a company. Fair to the workers, fair materials, repaireable phone with long support and doing a collab with Murena, making it easier than ever to experience a "deGoogled" mobile device right out of the box.

Which leads me right to the very first steps: opening the box and setting up. For the ones who have seen Fairphones own videos, there's indeed nothing else in the box other than the phone, sim tray tool and some documentation. After probably the easiest and fastest Android setup i've ever experienced, you're welcomed into the phone's default launcher:

Bliss Launcher. You do whatever you want right from this moment. No more second setup to decline once more everything Google's trying to push through. No more endless updates, notifications about features, etc. It's just you and a small bunch of preinstalled apps.

  • App Lounge
  • Calculator
  • Calendar
  • Clock
  • Files
  • Gallery
  • Recorder
  • Maps
  • Music
  • Mail
  • Browser
  • Notes
  • Tasks
  • Contacts
  • Phone Dialer
  • Messages
  • Camera

The homescreen only shows your app icons, and when you scroll to the right, you'll open a Google Discover-like page where your widgets are located. Sadly, the widgets can't switch positions, so you have to remove all of them and then select them in the order you want. Once they are in place, you can change their size and that's it.

All the basics covered, nothing more, nothing less. Pretty much all default apps work well, although i installed my go-to apps and put the others in the "no uss" folder, because you can't uninstall preinstalled apps.

One app did not work well is the email app. It wouldn't delete the emails i manually deleted and instead showed me the email as an new incoming mail with notification and all. After installing Thunderbird i wanted to log out in the app, but it even refused to do that... I end up disabling it as much i could and put it in the "no use folder" also.

There's another app i think that needs improvement, the default camera app: A fork of the well known OpenCamera. This leads me right to a good moment to talk about the phone's camera setup.

Of course you can find (much) better cameras in this price point, but cameras are not the main reason to buy this phone. However, i think the cameras are more than fine, for me at least. Moving objects/subjects are captured well, the focus gets the job done, photos and videos have a good amount of detail in them, colors look good. In low light they might struggle a bit, especially in dark environments where there are moving/changing light sources. The camera can't seem to find the right amount of ISO and the correct shutterspeed in these situations. This will result in some difficulties for "point and shoot" moments, not being able to focus properly and showing the good amount of brightness. One thing i think is most annoying, is not being able to zoom in or zoom out. I don't know if this is because of my settings or if the app/phone really can't do this, but it is something that should be present by default. That being said, the cameras are good enough. I even think they might be or get better with updates or other camera apps, but i guess we will see as we go.

You can download and install app by using e/os's app store, the App Lounge. The App Lounge heavily relies on Google Play Services API, as well as the ones needed for F-droid, etc. Read this link to understand a bit better how it works;

https://doc.e.foundation/support-topics/app_lounge#how-does-it-works

You can sign in as guest or login with you Google account to get acces to your paid apps. While it would be nice to filter search results, the app store performs well, including Privacy Scores for each app, which i think is a nice detail. I was able to install pretty much everything i wanted, including most of the requested apps in my previous post. There was just one app so far that i couldn't download, the Sofi Banking app.

Good time to talk about banking and wireless payment options, because here's the biggest problem people who want to deGoogle will come across.

While i can count myself lucky, because my banking, paying and investment apps (Rabobank, Paypal and Degiro) all work without any issues (even after days of usage, not a single issue), there are apps that simply won't work, such as said Sofi Banking app. What did not work was;

  • doing some* in-app purchases, for example: buying Minecoins in Minecraft
  • Google Pay/Wallet. I was able to install it, but it wouldn't load after that. Paying wireless, at least where i live since pretty much all banks moved to Google/Apple pay, is a no-go.
  • perhaps your banking apps...

...Because, like @Tapionpoika mentioned in a reply in my previous post, some apps will require Google Billing API, something that isn't included in MicroG. There are probably ways to spoof this, but for me the whole point was to 'deGoogle'. So, if you looking for a device that runs any deGoogle'd OS, make sure to take time browsing the internet to see what other people are saying about the apps you really want or need. I know that this was not what you hoped to read here today, so i'm sorry for that.

  • And like i said in my previous post, feel free to ask me to try out installing and running your banking app, or any other app! Maybe then you can find out if Murena will work for you!

And why i put the '*' after 'some' is because not all in-app purchases require Google Billing API. Example, i was able to order food in Uber Eats, because the app simply send me to my banking app to pay. If your payment needs to go through Google you can almost be sure it won't work, without spoofing the API that is. I have yet to figure out a good way to find out which apps are using these API's.

When it comes to other apps, such as Whatsapp, Signal, Brave/Firefox, Digid (for the Dutchies under us...), pretty much every other app i've installed on other phones, all work fine! I have yet to find apps that won't work. I'll update this post when i find apps that won't work. And again, feel free to ask me to try out apps!

Now i'm going to talk about hardware for a bit. I'm going to compare this to the Fairphone 5 i used to own and my previous phone, Nothing Phone 2a.

When it comes to CPU performance, the FP Gen 6 is actually snappier than i would've expected. While the performance compared to the NP 2a isn't really noticeable, which feels weird to say because of the 300 euro difference, the Gen 6 feels miles ahead of the Fairphone 5. I've had no lag, all apps and the UI run smooth, and even Minecraft runs unexpectedly well. The SD 7s Gen 3 also seems to be very efficient and not a hothead at all, which again compared to the FP5, is a massive step ahead. I expect this CPU to perform well for at least 5 more years to come.

The amount of RAM is more than fine for my usage, which at most would be a couple of chat apps, Voyager and a browser with just a handful of tabs opened. As I'm preparing the review in Standard Notes, my go-to note taking app, the phone has 4.8gb RAM free. Plenty of room available.

Where this phone absolutely DESTROYES the Fairphone 5, is battery life and thermal performance. In my first full day of usage, with a mix of Wifi and Mobile Data and installing and trying out a lot of apps, i didn't end up below 30% battery at the end of the dat, and that after almost 7 hours of screen-on time! On a normal day, such as yesterday, the battery reached about 68% at the end of the day with a screen-on time of ~3 hours. With normal to high usage, the temps didn't get past about 35°c. However, and this is something to keep in mind if you are using your phone hooked on a charger a lot, the phone got pretty warm when using it while hooked up to a 30Watt charger. I was just browsing the UI and Voyager, and the temps already reached about 45°c. So, if you plan to use you phone as a navigation device, hooked on a charger in a hot car, the temps might go beyond that. I would not worry too much tho, just keep it in mind (and maybe check to see if other user are experiencing problems).

The phone charges pretty quick. The "50% in 25 minutes" actually sound about right. Sadly Murena did not give us to charge it slower (so i'd produce less heat, being better for the battery) and also the 'charge to 80%' is not present. Hope they will add these things in the future.

There was some worry about the USB-C being only 2.0. I tried hooking it up on a external monitor using a USB hub and HDMI, but that did what i was expecting: nothing. That's kinda a bummer, althought i would not use that myself anyway. Charge speeds and data transfer are fine and that's what matters most to me.

Speakers sound's fine, with a good amount of lower tones. They aren't really loud, but they are enjoyable enough to watch videos with. They are better then the FP5's speakers, but i think my Nothing Phone 2a has a little better speakers (with a little less lower tones tho).

Vibration is much, much better then the FP 5's! They are smooth enough for haptic feedback, but strong enough to not miss any calls. Much improvement here!

The devices itself holds much more comfortable than any other smartphone i've used in at least the last 5 years. The 6,3 inch comes closer to what i think is a nice screen size (which would be a maximum of 5,8"), the edges aren't sharp anymore (FP5 had very sharp edges), the weight has been improved compared to the FP5 (lighter, although i do not really care myself).

The Fairphone's extra button, for Fairphone's Moments, does not do anything other than lock or unlock the microphone and camera acces. Would love to see Moments come to Murena as well, or at least some customizable options for that button; they can't be changed to something else.

Button placement is kinda annoying sometimes. To press the powerbutton, you kinda squeeze your phone, and with the volume button being on the exact other side, this phone is good at taking accidental screenshots. In the powerbutton you'll find the fingerprint sensor. It works very well! The only thing is... when i press the powerbutton to turn off my screen and leave my finger a little to long on the button, the fingerprint scanner will unlock and open my device again. That can be somewhat annoying. I takes a little time to get used to these things, but overall i think Fairphone almost completely nailed the phone's design (except for not including the 3.5mm jack, but it might be time to finally start to accept this...).

There was a question about changing band frequencies manually without rooting. Sadly, i have found no way to do this. This only thing you can change when it comes to networks, is changing your prefered network type(s). So, like turning of 5G, etc. Big list to choose from (see my previous post). I chose to only turn off 5G, since i don't notice or need higher speeds, which might be good for battery life as well.

Bugs, glitches, etc: pretty much nothing. There are some slight visual bugs tho. Opening a map on your homescreen blurs the surroundings. When you open an app in the map, and instead of pressing home you press the back button, the map re-appears but the blur will be gone. Also, when i have the "show taps" setting enabled in developers settings, the display's refresh rate will not smooth anymore (significant lag, going to at least 60fps). I will make sure to forward this to Murena. That's about it actually...

Now i'm going to say a couple of things i like, and maybe give u some tips about the device.

1- Change the animation speed right away. Do this by Settings-> About Phone-> tapping Build Number 7 times. Now you've unlocked Developers Mode. Go back to Settings -> System -> Developer mode. There change all 3 animation speeds to 0.5. Now your phone feels much faster! (also make sure 120hrz is turned on in you display settings).

2- As someone who really hates the Rotation Suggestion Popup everytime the device is slightly turned when auto rotate is off, e/os has a simple, maybe unintended, fix. Slide down the quicksettings and hold Auto Rotate. In these settings, set rotate to 90 and turn on auto rotate. Now, your phone won't rotate AND don't give you the popup anymore. Downside: you have to change this settings when you do want to rotate your screen...

3- Turning off or change notificationpanel icons. A neat little feature to let everything look the exact way you want. I only have the Clock enabled, everything looks more minimalistic! You can even change the shapes of the icons, for the battery you choose a whole other icon as well.

4- For the ones who really need wireless payment options, Fairphone has a cardholder that can replace your phone's back. It might sound a bit silly, but this might be a simple solution to your problem, if you card can be used wireless that is... It's understandable if you don't like this, but hey, mentioning it as a possible solution wouldn't hurt!

Can i recommend this phone? Absolutely! But please, and i can't say this more careful enough, make sure to look up the app compatibility of the apps you really need in a deGoogle'd OS! Otherwise, the regular version made do well enough for you, or, if you're just like me, just get the Murena and be okay if you need to find alternatives if necessary.

So, that's my take on the Fairphone Gen 6. I hope i was able to provide information you was looking for. I'll update my post if i forget to mention things, made typos, or if i need to update something else. And let me know if i can add more, or simply if you have questions! Have a good one!

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I have a Google Pixel 5 that I installed e/OS myself on, but I dropped it a few days ago and the touch sensor is broken in such annoying locations that I feel the need for a new phone. So, trying to be more environmentally conscious, I wanted to try a fairphone for better repairability. I know they have been offering a version with e/OS pre-installed, but I only learned today that it is 50€ more expensive.

Do any of you guys know what the benefit of letting them do it is? I guess there technically is a risk I mess it up and brick my brand new phone, but I think the risk is so small that I am willing to take it.

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Well im thinking about getting eos, but have heard that the apps cant be moved arround, and widgets (from Murena) cant be deletet? Is it still true? I want to personolice my homescreen.

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Hi Everybody I was thinking of installing /e/os on my Fairphone 5 but my work requires me to use Microsoft Authenticator on our personal phones in order to log into our work laptop (I know this really annoys me too). So just want to know if Authenticator works on e-os?

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Hi there, would like to try eOS on my device, but I think the documentation is out of time. I did flash Lineage a couple of times before, but already struggling with the pre-install requirements as the referred vbmeta.img is not in any of the downloadable .zip

Download the /e/OS build zip file from the section marked ‘Downloads for a52sxq’. Extract the contents of the /e/OS build zip file. You will find a vbmeta.img in the extracted files.

Also I am wondering if it really needs to be a special Odin version as mentioned in the doc. I am running Linux and found Odin v4 1.2.1 ad wondering if it would work plus how it works as this is a CLI Tool.

Anyone with experience around?

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Fairphone Camera! (europe.pub)
submitted 5 months ago* (last edited 5 months ago) by Tundra@lemmy.ml to c/e_os@lemmy.world
 
 

A tip for those like myself who somehow missed this feature!

[The video feature does work, this was an old post I found]

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/e/OS v2.6.3 has been released and it's available in the updater. It brings support for new devices, bug fixes, new features and most importantly: The upgrade to Android 14!

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2.4.1 is a re-publication of the 2.4 version which became unavailable following the critical outage which is happening since October, 6th. Please install it even if you had already installed 2.4 to be able to get 2.5 later on.

OTA Updates, App Lounge and Murena Services have been affected by the Murena server outage.

It appears that Murena has been taking the necessary steps to resume operation.

For more information and current updates, please visit the link.

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/e/os 2.2 released (gitlab.e.foundation)
submitted 11 months ago by AbidingOhmsLaw@lemmy.ml to c/e_os@lemmy.world
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/e/OS V2.1 released! (gitlab.e.foundation)
submitted 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) by illectrility@sh.itjust.works to c/e_os@lemmy.world
 
 

Please welcome /e/OS 2.1! We are proud to deliver the /e/OS 2.1. Enjoy all the new features and improvements it embeds!

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After the incredible success of /e/OS V1.0, the /e/OS team is proud to deliver its successor, e/OS V2.0. Enjoy!

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Does anybody have any workarounds for apps that don't work due to "security"? I have a few apps that I need for work that think my phone is rooted (it is not) and refuse to run. One is Entrust Identity Guard. It just won't open ("app keeps stopping") and the other is Service Now mobile ("a rooted device is not allowed").

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Hi, I need to know why do you not make the best ungoogles freedom is? GrapheneOS is already doing that but you could do that for the range of devices you have today, like a alternative of grapheneOS but for almost every devices. Thx

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We embedded some improvements!

  • Advanced Privacy
    • Apps with trackers can now be filtered to find them more easily
    • A view by tracker is now available
  • SHIFT6mq now has relockable bootloader support
  • Browser Adblock filter list is now up to date and customizable

Software updates

  • Maps was updated to 7.1.23.49
    • Fixed startup error message issue on Android 7 devices
    • Improved head-up-display appearance. Head-up-display type can be changed using swipe left / right actions
    • Fixed error regarding maps styles usage on arm32 devices
    • Improved UI, UX & stability
  • Browser is up to date with [upstream's version 119.0.6045.200
  • LineageOS 20 last bug fixes and security updates has been merged (list)

Bug fixes

  • Contacts:
    • Address books' names are now displayed properly when creating a new contact
    • All contact properties are now exported into vCard
  • Mail's regression regarding reading emails is now fixed
  • Xiaomi Redmi 3S's update is now available
  • OTA updates and upgrades are checked automatically again

Security fixes

This /e/OS v1.19.1 version includes the Android security patches available until December 2024.

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e/os v.1.18. released (gitlab.e.foundation)
submitted 2 years ago by zilla@lemmy.world to c/e_os@lemmy.world
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Please welcome /e/OS 1.17!

We embedded some improvements!

  • Keyboard
    • Keyboard's redesign in Android 13 to match our palette
  • Community devices
    • Some community devices were missing images for flashing: fix and update documentation
  • Browser
  • Updater
    • Updater crashes prevention
    • Translation improvements
  • microG
    • We moved to Stadia map tiler backend
  • App Lounge
    • The color of the banner now adapts to the theme in use

Software updates

  • Browser update
    • Browser update including security patches
  • microG
    • microG update with upstream
  • LineageOS 20.0 last bug fixes and security updates has been merged (list)
  • FP5
    • Upgrade firmware to FP5.TT3P.A.112.20231016

Bug fixes

  • Browser
    • Bookmark folders in Browser are now functional
    • Inapp browser integration is now working instead of opening a full browser instance
  • Message
    • SMS messages are now sent or received SMS messages only once as expected
  • Settings
    • Subsettings in Settings for A13 do not crash anymore
    • The notification light option is not available in Settings when there is no notification light on the phone
  • Update
    • Long text strings are now perfectly readable in the Updater
    • OTA server now only lists upgrades which are suitable for the phone
  • App Lounge
    • PWA label is again displayed in search results
    • AppLounge opens F-Droid links properly
    • Search results are now exhaustive whatever the source
    • Silent notifications for App Lounge now follow our palette
    • App lounge now warns user when space is insufficient to handle updates
  • eDrive
    • eDrive does not get stuck while syncing anymore
  • FP5
    • Option to select Calling/Roaming preference under Use Wi-Fi calling is now available with Congstar (T-Mobile Germany)
    • The "Serious camera error" is now fixed for FairPhone5
  • FP4
    • Camera lens are now all available in Camera for Fairphone 4
    • Pixel 4a, Pixel 6a and Fairphone 4 on Android 13 do not reboot randomly anymore
  • Pixel 5
    • Make boot and dtbo images available
  • Community devices

Security fixes

This /e/OS v1.17 includes the Android security patches available until October.

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