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[–] alcoholicorn@lemmy.ml 43 points 2 days ago (8 children) Who is downvoting this? The forsworn are native. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 8 child comments replies: [–] arrow74@lemmy.zip 16 points 2 days ago (3 children) I mean it's getting a bit loose with the term native. The Nords have been there a long fucking time. Humans on Earth are only native to Africa, but unique cultures have evolved elsewhere permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 3 child comments replies: [–] IDraw4u@sh.itjust.works 9 points 2 days ago HISSSS... THE LAND BELONGS TO THE LAND-FISH permalink fedilink source parent [–] Siethron@lemmy.world 1 point 1 day ago (1 child) I don't consider the Maori indigenous to New Zealand for this reason. They arrived there after Europeans landed on North America. Although when I think about that it makes me wonder how long a culture/ethnicity has to exist in an area before it is Indigenous. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] arrow74@lemmy.zip 3 points 1 day ago I'd argue it means the opposite. In terms of Skyrim though the nords have been there for about 4,000 years. I'd say if you're the first people there congrats you're that Natives. If you've replaced/eliminated the original population and lived there at least 1,000 years congrats you're the natives. Honestly the timing is arbitrary, I pick 1,000 because in modern day it's nearly impossible to track back descent that far. Very very few people can. In a society like Skyrim I'd argue it's after the last person that remembers that last person that moved there. About 6 generations or so permalink fedilink source parent [–] ahornsirup@feddit.org 10 points 2 days ago (1 child) They're not either. The dwemer and falmer are the natives. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] LH0ezVT@sh.itjust.works 5 points 2 days ago But the dwemer fucked off / killed themselves while summoning their omnissiah (iirc the lore gets a bit weird), and the falmer... well... yeah. permalink fedilink source parent [–] Dojan@pawb.social 2 points 1 day ago Well, the Falmer were there first really. They were subsequently enslaved by the Dwemer. Then the Atmorans (Nord) came along and performed a genocide and have been butthurt about it ever since. permalink fedilink source parent [–] DaedalousIlios@pawb.social 1 point 2 days ago The only living natives, sure! permalink fedilink source parent
[–] arrow74@lemmy.zip 16 points 2 days ago (3 children) I mean it's getting a bit loose with the term native. The Nords have been there a long fucking time. Humans on Earth are only native to Africa, but unique cultures have evolved elsewhere permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 3 child comments replies: [–] IDraw4u@sh.itjust.works 9 points 2 days ago HISSSS... THE LAND BELONGS TO THE LAND-FISH permalink fedilink source parent [–] Siethron@lemmy.world 1 point 1 day ago (1 child) I don't consider the Maori indigenous to New Zealand for this reason. They arrived there after Europeans landed on North America. Although when I think about that it makes me wonder how long a culture/ethnicity has to exist in an area before it is Indigenous. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] arrow74@lemmy.zip 3 points 1 day ago I'd argue it means the opposite. In terms of Skyrim though the nords have been there for about 4,000 years. I'd say if you're the first people there congrats you're that Natives. If you've replaced/eliminated the original population and lived there at least 1,000 years congrats you're the natives. Honestly the timing is arbitrary, I pick 1,000 because in modern day it's nearly impossible to track back descent that far. Very very few people can. In a society like Skyrim I'd argue it's after the last person that remembers that last person that moved there. About 6 generations or so permalink fedilink source parent
[–] IDraw4u@sh.itjust.works 9 points 2 days ago HISSSS... THE LAND BELONGS TO THE LAND-FISH permalink fedilink source parent
[–] Siethron@lemmy.world 1 point 1 day ago (1 child) I don't consider the Maori indigenous to New Zealand for this reason. They arrived there after Europeans landed on North America. Although when I think about that it makes me wonder how long a culture/ethnicity has to exist in an area before it is Indigenous. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] arrow74@lemmy.zip 3 points 1 day ago I'd argue it means the opposite. In terms of Skyrim though the nords have been there for about 4,000 years. I'd say if you're the first people there congrats you're that Natives. If you've replaced/eliminated the original population and lived there at least 1,000 years congrats you're the natives. Honestly the timing is arbitrary, I pick 1,000 because in modern day it's nearly impossible to track back descent that far. Very very few people can. In a society like Skyrim I'd argue it's after the last person that remembers that last person that moved there. About 6 generations or so permalink fedilink source parent
[–] arrow74@lemmy.zip 3 points 1 day ago I'd argue it means the opposite. In terms of Skyrim though the nords have been there for about 4,000 years. I'd say if you're the first people there congrats you're that Natives. If you've replaced/eliminated the original population and lived there at least 1,000 years congrats you're the natives. Honestly the timing is arbitrary, I pick 1,000 because in modern day it's nearly impossible to track back descent that far. Very very few people can. In a society like Skyrim I'd argue it's after the last person that remembers that last person that moved there. About 6 generations or so permalink fedilink source parent
[–] ahornsirup@feddit.org 10 points 2 days ago (1 child) They're not either. The dwemer and falmer are the natives. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] LH0ezVT@sh.itjust.works 5 points 2 days ago But the dwemer fucked off / killed themselves while summoning their omnissiah (iirc the lore gets a bit weird), and the falmer... well... yeah. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] LH0ezVT@sh.itjust.works 5 points 2 days ago But the dwemer fucked off / killed themselves while summoning their omnissiah (iirc the lore gets a bit weird), and the falmer... well... yeah. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] Dojan@pawb.social 2 points 1 day ago Well, the Falmer were there first really. They were subsequently enslaved by the Dwemer. Then the Atmorans (Nord) came along and performed a genocide and have been butthurt about it ever since. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] DaedalousIlios@pawb.social 1 point 2 days ago The only living natives, sure! permalink fedilink source parent