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[–] [S] 27 points 1 week ago (15 children)

When I first read this, I felt, "yeah, fuck those guys" But thinking more about it, the elite Russians with actual power already have residency or citizenship in EU. Spies can enter EU without the tourist visa. This might end up just impacting the anti-Z Russians.

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  • [–] 10 points 1 week ago (6 children)

    Meh, how useful is a tourist visa for an asylum seeker? I think that's what we should support them with.

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  • [–] 22 points 1 week ago (5 children)

    Very useful, ask any LGBT refugee from Russia or Belarus in Spain, Germany, Netherlands or almost any other EU country.

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  • [–] -1 points 1 week ago (4 children)

    Do you need tourist visa to ask for asylum? All the people crossing border in Ceuta ask for asylums without visas. Once you crossed the border it doesn't matter if you have a visa or not, you can request asylum. And I think Russia/Belarus/Macedonia/whatever will not stop you from leaving if you don't have a EU visa. You will be able to reach EU and as for asylum without a visa.

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  • [–] 3 points 1 week ago* (3 children)

    Just recently a man crossed the border from Kaliningrad to get asylum in Lietuva (not the best option but it was the closest). He got denied and now he's facing jail time in Russia for his social media posts.

    If you have a RIGHT to apply it doesn't mean you're gonna get approved. There are some anecdotes for denying Russians asking for asylum (or another type of visa, I don't recall exactly) for having a criminal record in Russia for the exact thing they were trying to run away from (it's usually donations or social media posts "discrediting" russian army)!

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  • [–] 2 points 1 week ago (2 children)

    Yes, but if he had tourist visa he would still be denied this asylum and deported, right? Tourist visa might help him stay in EU illegally but it would not help him get asylum.

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  • [–] 6 points 1 week ago (1 child)

    Thank you for thinking a bit more than a regular reactionist. This ban will hardly help with EU's "defense", and it's certainly not going to make an ordinary Russian angrier at their government because it's too fucking expensive to go to EU anyway.

    Yeah, some middle-class moskali will cry about it a bit, but above everything else it will make leaving Russia for people in danger more difficult. But yeah, it's gonna give an illusion that EU finally does something decisive for Ukraine (cough-cough, >4.5 years of the invasion).

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  • [+] -12 points 1 week ago (5 children)

    It makes it much harder to infiltrate us. Right now our gates are wide open and barbarians are just pouring in.

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  • [–] [S] 4 points 1 week ago (3 children)

    Barbarians? Are all Russians barbarians? Are the anti Z Russians barbarians?

    And are they really pouring in? Are you suffocating from too many Russians? I'm genuinely asking, as I don't know your experience.

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  • [–] 1 point 1 week ago (1 child)

    They's got Russians under their bed and in their closet right now.

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  • [–] 0 points 1 week ago

    Yeah we literally fucking have Russians performing terrorist attacks on European soil, all over Europe, and fanning dissent and supporting aiding and abetting and funding right wing extremists, and meddle in our elections, and kill people on our sovereign soil.

    Are you blind, dumb, or living in a swamp? This is extremely well known and vetted information.

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  • [–] 0 points 1 week ago

    There is an imperial war of aggression happening on European soil at the moment. They are active and constant threats against all of Europe and democracy everywhere. They commit terrorist attacks on us, fund right wing extremism, meddle in elections, make military incursions on and assassinate people on other nations' soverign soils.

    Yes, that country's borders need to be shut until the conflict is resolved.

    Either bots or teenagers in here, I can't decide.

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