I really don't like nonstick pans. I love my CI and CS pans and my beloved mirror finished SS pan. I do always keep one medium sized nonstick around as they do have their utility. I replace it every two years though as no matter if it's a cheap as seen on TV one or a fancy name brand, they all loose their nonstick properties with regular use. I had enough and decided to try a non-treated titanium coated pan. I have to say, so far I'm pretty impressed. Nowhere near the performance of a freshly purchased nonstick, but a bit less sticky than SS. Where it's really shining is with cleanup. It been very easy to wash clean even when there is charring or adherence. I haven't tried yet, but I think it's going to be perfect for cold-searing. Has anyone else tried these? Does the nonstick quality fade with microabrasions over time? If so hopefully lasts longer than 2 years?

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[–] 3 points 1 week ago (3 children)

I got a set of 4 pans and 4 pots on my wedding registry 8 years ago. Mid-range for non-sticks, and way cheaper than any other reasonable option would have been at the time. Of course, some get used a lot (usually the smaller ones) while some get used very little, but all of them are still very much non-stick.

It's also worth noting that, supposedly, by 2015 manufactures stopped using PFOAs in non-stick surfaces. They use other chemicals instead.

It's interesting to note that several manufacturers filed a lawsuit against Caraway this year, alleging that their advertising claims that today's non-stick coatings are toxic are incorrect.

So that's the question. Are these non-stick coatings actually terribe, with chemical companies hiding how dangerous they are (which is very possible)? Or maybe they genuinely do not know that, and the health impaxta are the kind of subtle long-term influences that will take decades to identify solidly? Or maybe... They're actually safe?

For now mine seem to be functioning properly. I baby them- handwash only, no metal utensils, stovetop-only, do not heat them empty. When I go to my local restaurant supply store, almost all of the pans there are non-stick, which indicates to me that most restaurants are probably using non-stick pans in my area.

So for now I don't see a reason to throw away my existing cookware and spend a bunch of money on something new. Once they start to stick I'll look into replacing them and seeing how the technology and market place have evolved.

I do have a couple of cast irons. It is nice to be able to use them in my oven or on my grill. Theoretically it would be nice to use them with metal utensils. But I do not buy metal cooking utensils so that point is moot. And my wife does not use them because they are so heavy. And they are a pain to clean and season.

I'm interested in getting a stainless steel pan of some kind, mostly for searing meat. But they need high-heat to prevent sticking, and I do a lot of stuff with low heat, so I don't think I would want all of my stuff to be stainless.

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  • [–] 3 points 1 week ago (2 children)

    Did I just read a blog post? :P
    (just kidding, good comment 🙂)

    Good point about hand-washing, which I also do but forgot to mention above. Also, use of wooden-only utensils. And I specifically avoid silicon since it's yet another polymer that likely leaches chemicals in to the food.

    Good question about the non-stick surface. Traditionally it's been very dangerous to cook if one has pet parrots in the house, as some chemical in the non-stick formula vaporises and kills ones' birds tragically quickly.

    When these wear out, I'm probably going to replace with cast iron or similar just to avoid the coating.

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  • [–] [S] 3 points 1 week ago (1 child)

    Allegedly this Ti is dishwasher safe!

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  • [–] 0 points 1 week ago

    As for stainless steel, just heft it.

    I believe that if you practice the mastery of "scorching hot and yet not burning", and the art of "smokeless but still very hot oil", you too can have a nonstick experience but with more difficulty if wearing pajamas and sorting out the coffee situation.

    I really don't want to be esoteric like the cult of cast iron, but if you hear "copper cladding", just run for your lives! [as many as you can muster]

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