> Literally no leftists were denying or avoiding Biden/Kamala’s support of the genocide.

Democrats sure as fuck were. And plenty of "liberals" here. We've got all the receipts.

And you're starting out by completely shifting the goalposts. This is gonna be fun.

I'll restate it again so its clear. LEFTISTS never denied the establishment DNC's denial of and support for the genocide in Palestine. We told you Trump would hyper-esculate the genocide in Palestine and start and support countless new ones, and that that wouldn't happen under Kamala. AND WE WERE RIGHT. COPE AND SEETHE

> We were telling you people that Trump would hyper-esculate the genocide, and start new ones while also destroying global peace. And he did.

You needed to run an anti-genocide candidate to stop him. You sabotaged that.

For like, the 400th time..

Now we're going into full schizo-posting.

When the fuck did leftists sabotage getting an anti-genocide candidate? Let's review the history.:

1. Supported Bernie Sanders in 2016, but he lost so we supported the far less harmful candidate than Trump who both won their primary and had the only chance to defeat him. That person lost.
2. Leftists supported Bernie Sanders in 2020, but he lost so we supported the far less harmful candidate than Trump who both won their primary and had the only chance to defeat him. That person won.
3. Leftists supported doing another primary in 2024, but Biden refused to step down early enough, so it didn't happen.
4. The DNC APPOINTED KAMALA because she was literally the VP and there was no time to conduct an actual primary. Kamala got the ticket.
5. And because people who are on the left to benefit society rather than do stupid fucking online virtue signalling in obscure social media platforms (you), aren't sociopathic or mentally disabled, we voted for the only viable candidate to defeat Trump because Trump was known and guarantee to be objectively worse on all fronts. AND WE WERE RIGHT.

> the dipshits

YOUR THE FUCKING DIPSHIT HERE!!!

I'm not the one both sides-ing as one side, AND ONLY ONE SIDE is ushering in fascism and starting a new genocide every month.

You can't run a pro-genocide in the anti-genocide lane and expect to win. You lose the fucking election.

Hey dumbfuck, remember when it wasn't our choice?

Hey dumbfuck, remember when we told you Trump was BY FAR more genocidal than any Dem and he would start multiple new genocides, including on US soil?

Hey dumbfuck, remember its YOUR FUCKING PROBLEM AND NO ONE ELSE'S that you are so insanely fucking short sighted, self-absorbed, and divorced from reality that you genuinely believe not supporting the ONLY VIABLE CANDIDATE to defeat the fascist one somehow is the anti-genocide stance?

THE ONLY FUCKING OPTION IS TO MOVE THE CANDIDATE TO BEING ANTI-GENOCIDE!!

And in the fantasy land you occupy, that happens overnight, or let alone in the system we occupy.

In reality, politicians in the US are greatly detatched from their voterbase and money has historically determined most elections.

Since we don't live in your fantasy land, we chose the ONLY VIABLE OPTION TO DEFEATING LITERAL FASCISM IN 2024, which was KAMALA

Thats it. Period. Fin. Finito. Finale. Pau.

Yeah that's it, you're a fucking moron who lives in fantasy land like every other fake leftist sack of shit who refuses to do even the most simple of meaningful action to make the world a better place, even if the only option in the moment is to not make it worse.

You side offers no credible mechansism for how to move an electorate. The only other option is to move the candidate.

Hey dumbfuck, did you see the massive wins from progressive and DSA candidates this year?

Wanna know how that happened?

THE DEM PRIMARIES

The strategy was, and had always been, to infiltrate the Dems with progressive candidates to sieze power from the establishment Dems, and IT WORKS.

But assholes like you are so insanely short sighted, and care so little about marginalized people, that everyone was an acceptable casualty to your lack of foresight and patience. And now we're here.

The fucking idiots here are the ones who expected American voters to behave differently than they do.

No, we simply did and are telling you the reality of the situation.

Its laughable you would EVER accuse anyone else of unrealistic expectations when you've demonstrated a complete divorce from the reality of the US election system and context to the 2024 election.

You don't get a choice in how voters behave.

No, but you can certainly influence the electorate with everything from canvassing, to donating to candidates, to becoming a poll worker, to even just not spewing far-right infiltration propaganda to other leftists that convinces them to not vote, or to vote against their own interests like in a non-viable 3rd party.

You can only adapt to it. You, YOU IN PARTICULAR, refuse to live in a world where the strategy maps to how real actual fucking voters behave.

Again, rich coming from the dipshit who thinks we ever had a chance to force the DNC to host a primary in July of 2024 and get an anti-genocide candidate in front of Kamala and win that ticket. Because that's what would need to have happened for your dumbass arguments to work.

Your fucking strategy is FUCKING WORTHLESS and just hands power to fascists.

My fucking dude, you dumb fucks didn't show up for Kamala. She lost due to a lack of votes. There was a lack of votes because of defeatist assholes like you prioritizing your fucking egos over what is objectively the only viable option against fascism.

You're also so insanely delusional, you keep pinning the actions of the DNC onto leftists who were smart enough to see this.

THats it. And Democrats did exactly what you wanted them to.

Time to take the meds from the nurse.

And they handed the fucking power to fascists.

Because a lack of voter turnout to stop the fascists, heavily motivated by dumbfucks like you who think withholding the vote would magically change Kamala's mind or guarantee a better candidate for 2028 or something.

IT DIDN'T WORK IN 2016, IT WASNT GONNA WORK IN 2024. AND WE TOLD YOU IDIOTS THAT.

So since you wont fucking pull your head out of your ass and live in an evidence based reality, I can only assume, you too also want to hand power to fascists.

The complete total lack of self awareness and self reflection from you is on a new level that only exists under Trump and his supporters.

Thankfully you peices of shit have completely lost control of the base and the party, and people who think like you are being ignore at scale, since all you are capable of is handing power to fascists.

Hey dumbfuck, go vote for the DNC candidate in your area regardless if they're an Israeli puppet or not. I plainly explained why that's important. All you did was verbally ball up your feces and chew on it in front of everyone on Lemmy. Good job.