▲ 272 ▼ 'If you can’t show your game to the world without fearing it’ll be cloned, something’s broken' says Moonlighter studio on its canceled demo (www.pcgamer.com) submitted 1 week ago by inclementimmigrant@lemmy.world to c/pcgaming@lemmy.ca 111 comments fedilink hide all child comments
[–] panda_abyss@lemmy.ca 46 points 1 week ago (23 children) This would be nice if you could feed your family with free software. But you can’t. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 23 child comments replies: [–] yardratianSoma@lemmy.ca 9 points 1 week ago (11 children) I mean, many open source projects offer paid subscriptions for hosting their service for you, in the world of hosted applications. So I mean, there are ways to monetize free software, indirectly. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 11 child comments replies: [–] SinningStromgald@lemmy.world 5 points 1 week ago (10 children) Witcher IV is free but you want more than 30fps? For just $5/mo and you can play at a stunning 60fps! Want unlocked framerate? That's $15/mo. 4k textures? $5/mo please. Want more than one saved game? Upgrade to three whole saved games for $10/mo! This is essentially what you are asking for. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 10 child comments replies: [–] chicken@lemmy.dbzer0.com 9 points 1 week ago (3 children) I feel like people would buy a game if the alternative was just that you have to compile it yourself and not have Steam achievements permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 3 child comments replies: [–] jjj@piefed.blahaj.zone 8 points 1 week ago (2 children) They do. Mindustry, Residual, and Asperite come to mind. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] plantfanatic@sh.itjust.works 1 point 1 week ago (1 child) What part of free did you miss from their comment? Those are only open source games, not FOSS like they specified. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] jjj@piefed.blahaj.zone 0 points 1 week ago Free as in freedom, not beer You can also get them for free by compiling or (for Mindustry) via itch.io or Flathub. permalink fedilink source parent [–] plantfanatic@sh.itjust.works 3 points 1 week ago* (2 children) For someone (a fucking large portion of people) who would play and beat the game over a weekend, you just gave everyone a boner for saving them a fuck ton of money. Pay $35 (or even free since their rig can’t do any of that regardless) for the game vs $80, fucking eh dude. I don’t think you made the point you wanted lmfao. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Paddzr@lemmy.world 3 points 1 week ago (1 child) You described Microsoft gamepass with extra steps.... and more expensive too. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] plantfanatic@sh.itjust.works 1 point 1 week ago* Gamepass is a full game, not tiered games where you can choose what content you would want. I could see how you would think it’s the same thoug, but it’s not at all. Being able to play a game for free with limited details is what people want. Not everyone can play 4k/120 lmfao. And the single dev that wants to spend the time can now have a product for multiple kinds of clients. permalink fedilink source parent [–] IAmYouButYouDontKnowYet@reddthat.com 3 points 1 week ago That has nothing to do with my op. It's actually the opposite... If people could just copy shit they could copy it and make a version without subscription. Also my op was borderline just sarcasm. Although isn't it how everything works in China with ip laws? permalink fedilink source parent [–] Paddzr@lemmy.world 2 points 1 week ago Thanks Satan. permalink fedilink source parent [–] Grimy@lemmy.world 1 point 1 week ago That's not how the projects in his example work. It's closer to a game which you can play for free but getting it to start is a bit of a hassle if you aren't tech oriented so they offer to host it for you. It wouldn't work for all types of games though. And some products do keep part of their offer behind a pay gap. Some work with donations, including governmental. permalink fedilink source parent [–] jjj@piefed.blahaj.zone 5 points 1 week ago (7 children) Mindustry seems to be doing just fine. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 7 child comments replies: [–] psx_crab@lemmy.zip 1 point 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago) (5 children) An outlier is not the norm. Cave Story and La Mulana inevitably need to be sold to generate the dev's income Edit: mistaken Mindustry for being FOSS permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 5 child comments replies: [–] jjj@piefed.blahaj.zone 1 point 1 week ago It is FOSS, see other comments. permalink fedilink source parent [–] plantfanatic@sh.itjust.works 0 points 1 week ago (3 children) Mindustry has also been paid since launch, its open source, not FOSS. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 3 child comments replies: [–] psx_crab@lemmy.zip 1 point 1 week ago Ok, that make sense. permalink fedilink source parent [–] notptr@lemmy.sdf.org 1 point 1 week ago Has GNUv3 license permalink fedilink source parent [–] jjj@piefed.blahaj.zone 1 point 1 week ago Free as in freedom, not beer You can get it for free on itch.io or Flathub permalink fedilink source parent [–] plantfanatic@sh.itjust.works 0 points 1 week ago Mindustry is paid on Steam? Thats not FOSS that’s just open source. permalink fedilink source parent [–] esc@piefed.social 1 point 1 week ago You can feed a family by selling libre software or support, e.g. RHEL, other enterprise software. permalink fedilink source parent [–] Miaou@jlai.lu 0 points 1 week ago (1 child) They foss, not free. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] plantfanatic@sh.itjust.works 4 points 1 week ago FOSS means free and open source software mate. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] yardratianSoma@lemmy.ca 9 points 1 week ago (11 children) I mean, many open source projects offer paid subscriptions for hosting their service for you, in the world of hosted applications. So I mean, there are ways to monetize free software, indirectly. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 11 child comments replies: [–] SinningStromgald@lemmy.world 5 points 1 week ago (10 children) Witcher IV is free but you want more than 30fps? For just $5/mo and you can play at a stunning 60fps! Want unlocked framerate? That's $15/mo. 4k textures? $5/mo please. Want more than one saved game? Upgrade to three whole saved games for $10/mo! This is essentially what you are asking for. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 10 child comments replies: [–] chicken@lemmy.dbzer0.com 9 points 1 week ago (3 children) I feel like people would buy a game if the alternative was just that you have to compile it yourself and not have Steam achievements permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 3 child comments replies: [–] jjj@piefed.blahaj.zone 8 points 1 week ago (2 children) They do. Mindustry, Residual, and Asperite come to mind. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] plantfanatic@sh.itjust.works 1 point 1 week ago (1 child) What part of free did you miss from their comment? Those are only open source games, not FOSS like they specified. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] jjj@piefed.blahaj.zone 0 points 1 week ago Free as in freedom, not beer You can also get them for free by compiling or (for Mindustry) via itch.io or Flathub. permalink fedilink source parent [–] plantfanatic@sh.itjust.works 3 points 1 week ago* (2 children) For someone (a fucking large portion of people) who would play and beat the game over a weekend, you just gave everyone a boner for saving them a fuck ton of money. Pay $35 (or even free since their rig can’t do any of that regardless) for the game vs $80, fucking eh dude. I don’t think you made the point you wanted lmfao. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Paddzr@lemmy.world 3 points 1 week ago (1 child) You described Microsoft gamepass with extra steps.... and more expensive too. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] plantfanatic@sh.itjust.works 1 point 1 week ago* Gamepass is a full game, not tiered games where you can choose what content you would want. I could see how you would think it’s the same thoug, but it’s not at all. Being able to play a game for free with limited details is what people want. Not everyone can play 4k/120 lmfao. And the single dev that wants to spend the time can now have a product for multiple kinds of clients. permalink fedilink source parent [–] IAmYouButYouDontKnowYet@reddthat.com 3 points 1 week ago That has nothing to do with my op. It's actually the opposite... If people could just copy shit they could copy it and make a version without subscription. Also my op was borderline just sarcasm. Although isn't it how everything works in China with ip laws? permalink fedilink source parent [–] Paddzr@lemmy.world 2 points 1 week ago Thanks Satan. permalink fedilink source parent [–] Grimy@lemmy.world 1 point 1 week ago That's not how the projects in his example work. It's closer to a game which you can play for free but getting it to start is a bit of a hassle if you aren't tech oriented so they offer to host it for you. It wouldn't work for all types of games though. And some products do keep part of their offer behind a pay gap. Some work with donations, including governmental. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] SinningStromgald@lemmy.world 5 points 1 week ago (10 children) Witcher IV is free but you want more than 30fps? For just $5/mo and you can play at a stunning 60fps! Want unlocked framerate? That's $15/mo. 4k textures? $5/mo please. Want more than one saved game? Upgrade to three whole saved games for $10/mo! This is essentially what you are asking for. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 10 child comments replies: [–] chicken@lemmy.dbzer0.com 9 points 1 week ago (3 children) I feel like people would buy a game if the alternative was just that you have to compile it yourself and not have Steam achievements permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 3 child comments replies: [–] jjj@piefed.blahaj.zone 8 points 1 week ago (2 children) They do. Mindustry, Residual, and Asperite come to mind. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] plantfanatic@sh.itjust.works 1 point 1 week ago (1 child) What part of free did you miss from their comment? Those are only open source games, not FOSS like they specified. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] jjj@piefed.blahaj.zone 0 points 1 week ago Free as in freedom, not beer You can also get them for free by compiling or (for Mindustry) via itch.io or Flathub. permalink fedilink source parent [–] plantfanatic@sh.itjust.works 3 points 1 week ago* (2 children) For someone (a fucking large portion of people) who would play and beat the game over a weekend, you just gave everyone a boner for saving them a fuck ton of money. Pay $35 (or even free since their rig can’t do any of that regardless) for the game vs $80, fucking eh dude. I don’t think you made the point you wanted lmfao. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Paddzr@lemmy.world 3 points 1 week ago (1 child) You described Microsoft gamepass with extra steps.... and more expensive too. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] plantfanatic@sh.itjust.works 1 point 1 week ago* Gamepass is a full game, not tiered games where you can choose what content you would want. I could see how you would think it’s the same thoug, but it’s not at all. Being able to play a game for free with limited details is what people want. Not everyone can play 4k/120 lmfao. And the single dev that wants to spend the time can now have a product for multiple kinds of clients. permalink fedilink source parent [–] IAmYouButYouDontKnowYet@reddthat.com 3 points 1 week ago That has nothing to do with my op. It's actually the opposite... If people could just copy shit they could copy it and make a version without subscription. Also my op was borderline just sarcasm. Although isn't it how everything works in China with ip laws? permalink fedilink source parent [–] Paddzr@lemmy.world 2 points 1 week ago Thanks Satan. permalink fedilink source parent [–] Grimy@lemmy.world 1 point 1 week ago That's not how the projects in his example work. It's closer to a game which you can play for free but getting it to start is a bit of a hassle if you aren't tech oriented so they offer to host it for you. It wouldn't work for all types of games though. And some products do keep part of their offer behind a pay gap. Some work with donations, including governmental. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] chicken@lemmy.dbzer0.com 9 points 1 week ago (3 children) I feel like people would buy a game if the alternative was just that you have to compile it yourself and not have Steam achievements permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 3 child comments replies: [–] jjj@piefed.blahaj.zone 8 points 1 week ago (2 children) They do. Mindustry, Residual, and Asperite come to mind. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] plantfanatic@sh.itjust.works 1 point 1 week ago (1 child) What part of free did you miss from their comment? Those are only open source games, not FOSS like they specified. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] jjj@piefed.blahaj.zone 0 points 1 week ago Free as in freedom, not beer You can also get them for free by compiling or (for Mindustry) via itch.io or Flathub. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] jjj@piefed.blahaj.zone 8 points 1 week ago (2 children) They do. Mindustry, Residual, and Asperite come to mind. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] plantfanatic@sh.itjust.works 1 point 1 week ago (1 child) What part of free did you miss from their comment? Those are only open source games, not FOSS like they specified. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] jjj@piefed.blahaj.zone 0 points 1 week ago Free as in freedom, not beer You can also get them for free by compiling or (for Mindustry) via itch.io or Flathub. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] plantfanatic@sh.itjust.works 1 point 1 week ago (1 child) What part of free did you miss from their comment? Those are only open source games, not FOSS like they specified. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] jjj@piefed.blahaj.zone 0 points 1 week ago Free as in freedom, not beer You can also get them for free by compiling or (for Mindustry) via itch.io or Flathub. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] jjj@piefed.blahaj.zone 0 points 1 week ago Free as in freedom, not beer You can also get them for free by compiling or (for Mindustry) via itch.io or Flathub. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] plantfanatic@sh.itjust.works 3 points 1 week ago* (2 children) For someone (a fucking large portion of people) who would play and beat the game over a weekend, you just gave everyone a boner for saving them a fuck ton of money. Pay $35 (or even free since their rig can’t do any of that regardless) for the game vs $80, fucking eh dude. I don’t think you made the point you wanted lmfao. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Paddzr@lemmy.world 3 points 1 week ago (1 child) You described Microsoft gamepass with extra steps.... and more expensive too. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] plantfanatic@sh.itjust.works 1 point 1 week ago* Gamepass is a full game, not tiered games where you can choose what content you would want. I could see how you would think it’s the same thoug, but it’s not at all. Being able to play a game for free with limited details is what people want. Not everyone can play 4k/120 lmfao. And the single dev that wants to spend the time can now have a product for multiple kinds of clients. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] Paddzr@lemmy.world 3 points 1 week ago (1 child) You described Microsoft gamepass with extra steps.... and more expensive too. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] plantfanatic@sh.itjust.works 1 point 1 week ago* Gamepass is a full game, not tiered games where you can choose what content you would want. I could see how you would think it’s the same thoug, but it’s not at all. Being able to play a game for free with limited details is what people want. Not everyone can play 4k/120 lmfao. And the single dev that wants to spend the time can now have a product for multiple kinds of clients. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] plantfanatic@sh.itjust.works 1 point 1 week ago* Gamepass is a full game, not tiered games where you can choose what content you would want. I could see how you would think it’s the same thoug, but it’s not at all. Being able to play a game for free with limited details is what people want. Not everyone can play 4k/120 lmfao. And the single dev that wants to spend the time can now have a product for multiple kinds of clients. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] IAmYouButYouDontKnowYet@reddthat.com 3 points 1 week ago That has nothing to do with my op. It's actually the opposite... If people could just copy shit they could copy it and make a version without subscription. Also my op was borderline just sarcasm. Although isn't it how everything works in China with ip laws? permalink fedilink source parent
[–] Grimy@lemmy.world 1 point 1 week ago That's not how the projects in his example work. It's closer to a game which you can play for free but getting it to start is a bit of a hassle if you aren't tech oriented so they offer to host it for you. It wouldn't work for all types of games though. And some products do keep part of their offer behind a pay gap. Some work with donations, including governmental. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] jjj@piefed.blahaj.zone 5 points 1 week ago (7 children) Mindustry seems to be doing just fine. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 7 child comments replies: [–] psx_crab@lemmy.zip 1 point 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago) (5 children) An outlier is not the norm. Cave Story and La Mulana inevitably need to be sold to generate the dev's income Edit: mistaken Mindustry for being FOSS permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 5 child comments replies: [–] jjj@piefed.blahaj.zone 1 point 1 week ago It is FOSS, see other comments. permalink fedilink source parent [–] plantfanatic@sh.itjust.works 0 points 1 week ago (3 children) Mindustry has also been paid since launch, its open source, not FOSS. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 3 child comments replies: [–] psx_crab@lemmy.zip 1 point 1 week ago Ok, that make sense. permalink fedilink source parent [–] notptr@lemmy.sdf.org 1 point 1 week ago Has GNUv3 license permalink fedilink source parent [–] jjj@piefed.blahaj.zone 1 point 1 week ago Free as in freedom, not beer You can get it for free on itch.io or Flathub permalink fedilink source parent [–] plantfanatic@sh.itjust.works 0 points 1 week ago Mindustry is paid on Steam? Thats not FOSS that’s just open source. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] psx_crab@lemmy.zip 1 point 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago) (5 children) An outlier is not the norm. Cave Story and La Mulana inevitably need to be sold to generate the dev's income Edit: mistaken Mindustry for being FOSS permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 5 child comments replies: [–] jjj@piefed.blahaj.zone 1 point 1 week ago It is FOSS, see other comments. permalink fedilink source parent [–] plantfanatic@sh.itjust.works 0 points 1 week ago (3 children) Mindustry has also been paid since launch, its open source, not FOSS. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 3 child comments replies: [–] psx_crab@lemmy.zip 1 point 1 week ago Ok, that make sense. permalink fedilink source parent [–] notptr@lemmy.sdf.org 1 point 1 week ago Has GNUv3 license permalink fedilink source parent [–] jjj@piefed.blahaj.zone 1 point 1 week ago Free as in freedom, not beer You can get it for free on itch.io or Flathub permalink fedilink source parent
[–] jjj@piefed.blahaj.zone 1 point 1 week ago It is FOSS, see other comments. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] plantfanatic@sh.itjust.works 0 points 1 week ago (3 children) Mindustry has also been paid since launch, its open source, not FOSS. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 3 child comments replies: [–] psx_crab@lemmy.zip 1 point 1 week ago Ok, that make sense. permalink fedilink source parent [–] notptr@lemmy.sdf.org 1 point 1 week ago Has GNUv3 license permalink fedilink source parent [–] jjj@piefed.blahaj.zone 1 point 1 week ago Free as in freedom, not beer You can get it for free on itch.io or Flathub permalink fedilink source parent
[–] jjj@piefed.blahaj.zone 1 point 1 week ago Free as in freedom, not beer You can get it for free on itch.io or Flathub permalink fedilink source parent
[–] plantfanatic@sh.itjust.works 0 points 1 week ago Mindustry is paid on Steam? Thats not FOSS that’s just open source. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] esc@piefed.social 1 point 1 week ago You can feed a family by selling libre software or support, e.g. RHEL, other enterprise software. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] Miaou@jlai.lu 0 points 1 week ago (1 child) They foss, not free. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] plantfanatic@sh.itjust.works 4 points 1 week ago FOSS means free and open source software mate. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] plantfanatic@sh.itjust.works 4 points 1 week ago FOSS means free and open source software mate. permalink fedilink source parent