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Far right nutjob wins presidential election in Poland (www.theguardian.com)

submitted 4 days ago by cabbage@piefed.social to c/Europe

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Nawrocki, aka the "nationalist" candidate, just won the election in Poland with a very narrow margin.

Nawrocki is formally independent, but is aligned with the PiS party of current president Duda, who were responsible for undermining Polish democracy by among other things stacking the courts with illegitimate judges. As the president has the power to block all judidcal appointments, it does not look like Poland will have their democracy back for the next five years: Duda has simply blocked all judicial appointments rendering the Polish state a lame duck, and in all likelihood Nawrocki will keep up the same obstructionist strategy.

Then again, that's what they voted for.

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[–] harcesz@szmer.info 41 points 4 days ago (4 children)

Polleming here, some context;

this guy a doctor of history, until recently head of IPN, state historical institute dealing with historical crimes of the Nazi and Soviet regimes + other genocides (pol-ukr)
in early 20 took over a flat from an old alcoholic who was then in prison (prob. "encouraged" by other prisoners)
signed a deal he will support the guy in exchange for the flat till the end of life, the guy is now in a state welfare facility, fully on state support
flat itself was siphoned of the housing system
used to work as bouncer in a gang bar
also a football casual who took part of one of the most famous 70v70 football casuals fight, along key gangsters
delivered sexworkers to a hotel where he worked as security
went to beg for support of a far right pro-russian candidate, got humiliated publicly, signed off vetoing Ukraine in NATO (key Polish starategic objective for security against openly threathened Russian invasion)
wins 50.89% to 49.11% against a bland liberal, president of Warsaw
we live in a society.

[–] harcesz@szmer.info 31 points 4 days ago

Each point of these is a public fact BTW, not some gossip. All broadly discussed in the media, and supported by evidence/witnesses and with no real denial by Nawrocki.

[–] Coldcell@sh.itjust.works 10 points 3 days ago (1 children)

Kinda wild how all these gang-associated right wingers with ties to Russia somehow manage to win elections by a narrow margin recently.

So weird.

[–] AngryCommieKender@lemmy.world 3 points 3 days ago

Indeed.....

https://sdvoice.info/trump-lost-vote-suppression-won-here-are-the-numbers/

https://youtu.be/UgIay64Obcs

https://youtu.be/t-yr-Mgkhm0

https://electiontruthalliance.org/eta

First and last links are the data. The middle links are for us stupid people that need to be told how to read the data in the last link.

[–] FreakinSteve@lemmy.world 4 points 3 days ago

Wait, Poland has bland liberals just like the US??

[–] bonnashejve 3 points 4 days ago* (last edited 4 days ago) (1 children)

Polish people did their choice and I just hope that Navrocky will be as strong as our president Volodymyr Zelensky when russian troops attack his country. Putin has nothing to loose anymore so he is raising stakes. He's like that drunken gambler who lost his fortune and now wants to win it back by betting all his money on one card. I'm just surprised by the insecurity of the Poles, have they really forgotten how many times Russia divided the Polish-Lithuanian Commonwealth. So that it doesn't suddenly become a surprise for them... because a weak president during a war is always bad.

[–] harcesz@szmer.info 6 points 3 days ago (1 children)

PiS/Nawrocki are quietly pro-russian traitors. If things get hard they will either follow our historical goverments and run, leaving the people to defend themselves or follow the other historical goverments and allow for the country to be divided and conquered without a serious fight. Our tradition of fighting for freedom is very separate from our traditional goverments...

[–] bonnashejve 1 points 3 days ago

I just think what Nawrocki would do if Russia attacked Poland, the US withdrew from NATO, and the EU and Great Britain refused to participate in the war against Russia... Leaving Poland one on one with Russia. Would Nawrocki surrender Poland to Putin? I know for sure that Ukraine, unlike Poland, will send Ukrainians to defend Poland - and all Ukrainians will be in solidarity in this matter. For us, Poles are brothers, just like Belarusians. No matter what. And no matter how much Russia wants to quarrel us - it will not succeed.

PiS/Nawrocki are quietly pro-russian traitors. If things get hard they will either follow our historical goverments and run, leaving the people to defend themselves or follow the other historical goverments and allow for the country to be divided and conquered without a serious fight. Our tradition of fighting for freedom is very separate from our traditional goverments…