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Ladies: please help me understand. (europe.pub)
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It's literally the most natural thing in the world to equate reproductive effectiveness to worth. All life is "worth" their reproductive effectiveness. So not having sex is very relevant to our entire existence as a species.

As such, our mental faculties put a heavy punishment in the form of mental pain, i.e. "self-worth attached to getting laid", on this whole thing.

This has very little to do with societal expectations. It's simple biology. Not getting laid is supposed to be one of the worst things for an organism.

You're rationally right with what you say, but it's simply not very relevant. Rationality does not help with our most deeply rooted biological desires. The only thing that helps is getting them fulfilled, i.e. having sex."

From the Blackpill incel thread

I can't tell I'm just too ace to comprehend this. Is this a thing? Do women feel this? I argued it's more of a "societal expectation" thing and was countered with.. this.

Not saying this user is wrong, I just am having a difficult time understanding this.

"Our most deeply rooted biological desires" has me squinting real hard. Do women feel this way, too? Idk I'm absolutely confused af

EDIT: Please do NOT brigade the blackpill thread. No touch. Seriously.

Realization achieved: it's not an incel discussion thread: it's now an incel defense thread. What a fuckin' waste ffs..

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[–] mmmari@lemmy.zip 6 points 6 days ago

First of all, there is some truth in what he is saying. Humans are animals too, and as such we have a biological drive to procreate, as all animals do. There is a term of reproductive success which is a measure of offspring produced. Now, this is a way of understanding population dynamics.

But as humans, ofcourse we don't feel it applies to us as we see ourselves as more than just animals. And ofcourse there are exceptions, not everyone wants to procreate, but this doesn't override it for the majority. And there are further dynamics which go further than just offspring produced, so the picture becomes complex when you bring human nature into it.

All that is to say, he is using en existing term (kind of wrongly) to support his opinion. But he fails to see beyond it. And if he sees himself as an animal, ok, let us be humans. You shouldn't concern yourself with this. This opinion, publicly stated, is unlikely to get him laid, thus defeating his self-attributed "worth".