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[–] thedruid@lemmy.world 33 points 1 week ago (4 children)

Then they aren't men. Real men don't try and control women. We are secure enough that we don't mind others making decisions about their own bodies.

[–] Botzo@lemmy.world 10 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Agreed. I realized at some point that if I said I supported choice, it must never be my choice.

Abortion should be a decision between the person seeking the abortion and their doctor/care provider.

That's it. No hedging about rape or incest, number of weeks, the reason one is being sought, or the manner of the procedure.

I support access to abortion.

[–] bss03@infosec.pub 7 points 1 week ago

I want to live in a world where no entity gets to use my organs without my consent. I want to live in an equitable / just world.

Therefore, I want to live in a world where no fetus gets to use any person's uterus without their consent. I support access to abortion.

[–] bss03@infosec.pub 2 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago) (2 children)

I think you are running a risk of No True Scotsman, but I agree that detoxified masculinity rejects controlling persons.

[–] thedruid@lemmy.world 2 points 1 week ago

I'm a 58 year old man who is fully secure in my masculinity. I don't care what people think.

[–] MITM0@lemmy.world -2 points 1 week ago

No such thing as toxic masculinity when you demand for it.

[–] DarkGamer@fedia.io 1 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Being an asshole doesn't diminish one's masculinity.

[–] thedruid@lemmy.world 6 points 1 week ago

Yes, it does. Being an asshole is a choice. Men don't choose to be assholes. For instance Andrew rate us an asshole. He also isn't a man. He's an insecure douchebag.

[–] MITM0@lemmy.world -1 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Don't try to "real men do X" here. You wouldn't do that to women, so follow your own standards

[–] thedruid@lemmy.world 2 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago) (1 children)

Ill say what I want, where I want

And no. Real men don't tell women what to do with their body? Don't agree , you have the issue not me.

[–] MITM0@lemmy.world -1 points 1 week ago (1 children)

& I'll tell you that you have no right to decide who's a real man & who isn't. Just like you or I wouldn't tell a woman to act like or be a "real woman".

[–] thedruid@lemmy.world 1 points 1 week ago

And you'd be wrong. EOS. Now. Good evening.