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[–] 233 points 1 year ago* (19 children)

Imagine joining the Marines and ending up doing this for Donald Trump and Pete Hegseth.

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  • [–] 141 points 1 year ago (17 children)

    The oath clearly states you'll follow legal orders of the officers above you. I would like to think when I was in the military I would refuse to follow these illegal orders. In reality I have no idea what I would do. It would be a long legal battle and potentially life ruining event to do the right thing.

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  • [–] 82 points 1 year ago (4 children)

    Soldiers aren't lawyers either. So you'd have to be super confident in your knowledge of the law to risk discharge or imprisonment.

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  • [–] 61 points 1 year ago* (1 child)

    Yeah, for most things. But when it comes to fighting your own citizens, it feels pretty cut and dry. But again, this is easy for me to say now that I'm not wearing the uniform anymore.

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  • [–] 10 points 1 year ago

    I appreciate your honesty. People make it sound so easy to do the right thing but when you're in a group like the military where conformity is pretty much a matter of life and death, it's like a very hard decision to make.

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  • [–] 22 points 1 year ago

    The USMC has a chain of command whose job it is to know this shit. They let those Marines down and have stained the honor of the Corps.

    The writing has been on the wall since at least last February or whenever it was trump replaced so much of the DoD top brass. This was always what - in his first term he tried to send troops to Oregon and the DoD correctly told him “no”. Those people are replaced with scum who don’t mind violating the Posse Comitatus Act.

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  • [–] 40 points 1 year ago (2 children)

    Thank you for being honest about it. A different thread over the same topic people were saying it’s very simple and military should be able to easily disobey these illegal orders. Reality is much different. I know it’s very scary to potentially throw your life away to do the right thing and no one can truly say what they would do in this type of situation without actually living it.

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  • [–] 29 points 1 year ago (1 child)

    Yeah, you're talking about potentially getting a dishonorable discharge making it super hard to get another good job and potentially going to military prison. It's an insanely hard situation to be in. The guilt you'll live with for following orders or having life long economic ruin. I'm just so glad I'm not in the military anymore.

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  • [–] 16 points 1 year ago (4 children)

    There does exist a hotline to call if you're being given illegal orders, at least.

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  • [–] 11 points 1 year ago (2 children)

    What good is it when they're doing it live on television?

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  • [–] 2 points 1 year ago (1 child)

    In my country there’s a thing called court martial. I guess it’s the same in the US. So if a soldier disobeys it’ll probably be that.

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