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[–] 233 points 1 year ago* (19 children)

Imagine joining the Marines and ending up doing this for Donald Trump and Pete Hegseth.

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  • [–] 141 points 1 year ago (17 children)

    The oath clearly states you'll follow legal orders of the officers above you. I would like to think when I was in the military I would refuse to follow these illegal orders. In reality I have no idea what I would do. It would be a long legal battle and potentially life ruining event to do the right thing.

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  • [–] 82 points 1 year ago (4 children)

    Soldiers aren't lawyers either. So you'd have to be super confident in your knowledge of the law to risk discharge or imprisonment.

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  • [–] 61 points 1 year ago* (1 child)

    Yeah, for most things. But when it comes to fighting your own citizens, it feels pretty cut and dry. But again, this is easy for me to say now that I'm not wearing the uniform anymore.

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  • [–] 10 points 1 year ago

    I appreciate your honesty. People make it sound so easy to do the right thing but when you're in a group like the military where conformity is pretty much a matter of life and death, it's like a very hard decision to make.

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  • [–] 22 points 1 year ago

    The USMC has a chain of command whose job it is to know this shit. They let those Marines down and have stained the honor of the Corps.

    The writing has been on the wall since at least last February or whenever it was trump replaced so much of the DoD top brass. This was always what - in his first term he tried to send troops to Oregon and the DoD correctly told him “no”. Those people are replaced with scum who don’t mind violating the Posse Comitatus Act.

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  • [–] 40 points 1 year ago (2 children)

    Thank you for being honest about it. A different thread over the same topic people were saying it’s very simple and military should be able to easily disobey these illegal orders. Reality is much different. I know it’s very scary to potentially throw your life away to do the right thing and no one can truly say what they would do in this type of situation without actually living it.

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  • [–] 16 points 1 year ago (4 children)

    There does exist a hotline to call if you're being given illegal orders, at least.

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  • [–] 98 points 1 year ago (9 children)

    Oh hey look more blatantly illegal shit from orange leader

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    [–] 89 points 1 year ago (9 children)

    So ... the US Army is now an occupying force, and the Second Amendment crowd will activate to save us?

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  • [–] 14 points 1 year ago (3 children)

    OK. This needs to be said. Not every 2A adherant is a magat or a republican. There are many of us actual leftists that are armed and getting ready to actually fight this shit. The NRA != every armed American, and the time for leftists failing to be armed is long gone. Dems have been fighting against an actual armed left for decades because they love their capitalism. It is time to mobilize for real.

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    [–] 40 points 1 year ago (3 children)

    "Any temporary detention ends immediately when the individual(s) can be safely transferred to the custody of appropriate civilian law enforcement personnel," a spokesperson said.

    Coming soon:

    "Day 3650, we'll transfer you to an appropriate civilian law enforcement personnel soon, prisoner."

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    [–] 37 points 1 year ago (3 children)
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    I read the article. He crossed a yellow taped off area of the building perimeter.

    He was a vet headed into the building for some reason and the marines stopped him, detained, turned over, and he was then released.

    The guy didn’t seem to phased by it. Overall I’d give it a 5/7.

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  • [–] 32 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

    "They're just doing their job," said Leao,

    No, Marcos, I don't think they are.

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  • [–] 29 points 1 year ago (5 children)

    This is why I'll never thank the troops.

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  • [–] 27 points 1 year ago (2 children)

    Troops who invade our country and do violence to our people are our enemy, no matter what flag they fly or uniform they wear. Fuck these scum.

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    [–] 28 points 1 year ago

    That tattoo on that pigs knuckles; anyone got a better image? Ms13?

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  • [–] 27 points 1 year ago (1 child)

    …

    Reuters images showed Marines apprehending a civilian, restraining his hands with zip ties and then handing him over to civilians from the Department of Homeland Security.

    Asked about the incident, the U.S. military's Northern Command spokesperson said active duty forces "may temporarily detain an individual in specific circumstances."

    "Any temporary detention ends immediately when the individual(s) can be safely transferred to the custody of appropriate civilian law enforcement personnel," a spokesperson said.

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  • [–] 27 points 1 year ago (1 child)

    I feel SO free right now. :P

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  • [–] 16 points 1 year ago*

    I hope they ultimately meet a similar fate or find early graves rather than act as traitors. Rest in piss redneck trash, there's no honor or valor involved.

    "Just doing their job" I hope somebody tells them the same while disappearing them to somewhere I won't give a flying fuck about. May your partners be slutted out and your children die before you.

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  • [–] 9 points 1 year ago (2 children)

    This is what you voted for protest-non-voters.

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    [–] 6 points 1 year ago (4 children)

    What would happen if someone were to detain a group of marines (with the minimal force necessary), in the wrong assumption - honest mistake - that they were about to execute illegal orders?

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    [–] 5 points 1 year ago

    Diapered States Goon Corps. Good job clowns.

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  • [–] 4 points 1 year ago

    So it begins! Buy the ticket, take the ride! This is what you get for electing rump

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  • [–] 3 points 1 year ago

    MacArthur would be proud.

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