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[–] FlashMobOfOne@lemmy.world 14 points 4 days ago (1 children)

Ukraine actually gave their nukes on the promise of future safety. We all saw how that worked out.

[–] SleafordMod@feddit.uk 9 points 4 days ago (1 children)

Exactly. If Ukraine had their own nukes by the time of 2014, or if they had been part of NATO, then maybe Russia wouldn't have invaded Ukraine.

[–] floquant@lemmy.dbzer0.com -2 points 4 days ago (4 children)

"More nukes" is never a good solution to any problem

[–] SleafordMod@feddit.uk 5 points 4 days ago

I think ideally there would be no nukes in the world, because they are dangerous. But nukes do exist. If western countries got rid of their nukes, then the remaining nuclear countries would be able to do what they like. "Surrender to our demands or we will nuke your cities."

[–] JcbAzPx@lemmy.world 2 points 3 days ago (1 children)

You'd think so, but it worked out surprisingly well during the cold war.

[–] floquant@lemmy.dbzer0.com 1 points 3 days ago (1 children)

The war that was caused by nuclear arsenals and ended with treaties to get rid of them? The fuck

[–] JcbAzPx@lemmy.world 1 points 1 day ago (1 children)

The only reason it stayed cold the whole time is that both sides had nukes. Even the most adamant of chicken hawks hesitated to pull the trigger with the consequence of the world becoming uninhabitable hanging over our heads.

[–] floquant@lemmy.dbzer0.com 1 points 1 day ago (1 children)

I'm not saying that MAD is not a thing, I'm just saying it's a stupid thing. And that the cold war ended when both parties eventually realized that

[–] JcbAzPx@lemmy.world 1 points 21 hours ago

The cold war ended when the Soviet Union ran out of money. And frankly, there are still people trying to keep it going.

[–] SabinStargem@lemmy.today 3 points 4 days ago (1 children)

Perhaps not a good one, but still a solution, when a bear gets overly familiar.

[–] Shardikprime@lemmy.world -2 points 4 days ago

Bear

Beets

Battlestar Galactica

[–] jumping_redditor@sh.itjust.works 2 points 4 days ago (1 children)

what if your nuclear weapon collection is looking too small? How, other than getting more nukes, does on remedy this problem?

[–] HikingVet@lemmy.ca 1 points 3 days ago

North Korea is a good example of a small collection of Nukes being an effective detterant.