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[–] Machinist@lemmy.world 14 points 3 days ago (1 children)

The moral calculus of bombs is a truly fucked up thing.

If the JDAM is driving a single conventional warhead, it is more ethical than a cluster bomb.

It is common for some of the cluster bomblets to not detonate creating unknown minefields that persist for decades. A single bomb only goes off once.

(This is the ethics of the bomb, not the conflict they're used in)

[–] outhouseperilous@lemmy.dbzer0.com 1 points 3 days ago (1 children)

Okay but if it hits a full apartment building, 100% of that bomb goes to killing unaware civilians.

Which is the whole reason cluster munitions are bad.

[–] dustyData@lemmy.world 9 points 3 days ago (1 children)

Any weapon fired at a civilian is a war crime. It doesn't matter what kind of munition was used. The problem with cluster bombs is that the shooting party, cannot control the result. Signatories of IHL have a responsibility to minimize damage to civilian people and assets. The same reason autonomous weapons are a huge ethical problem.

[–] outhouseperilous@lemmy.dbzer0.com -2 points 3 days ago (1 children)

And im saying: is firing indiscriminately with no regard to hitting civilians, now or in 50 years, worse than trying to make sure 100% of a bomb kills as many civiliams and as much of their infrastructure as possible?

[–] dustyData@lemmy.world 6 points 3 days ago (1 children)

Neither is worse, they both suck just as bad.

Okay hut what if one of the civilians is a white jewish man, and the other is a persian muslim woman? Killing the jewish guy is worse, right?