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About Zohran Mamdani, say the words, Liberal: Vote Blue No Matter Who.
Say it.
Quit dancing around it, quit pretending this has nothing to do with everything else I've brought up in our discussion.
Say the Line, Bart.
Say it.
Because when all I hear is "vote blue no matter who" unpacked, without acknowledging him? Is Liberal Cope, from a meat-bot that cannot acknowledge the reality implied by the principles it spews.
No more dancing. No more trying to be clever. Say the fucking line, Bart, and be an actual person again.
I support Mamdani. I'm going to vote for the furthest left, viable candidates that I can. In most cases, in the short term, that's going to be neoliberals. Hopefully all the candidates will be socialist eventually.
Your argument is fully committed to owning this neoliberal that you've invented. I don't care about what other people think about me. I'm way to close to the chopping block to care. So I definitely don't care about your views on this other person you're pretending to have an argument with.
But you're argument is an excellent example of how to be politically ineffective so I'll keep dismantling it. People need to out grow this mindset of preserving their personal moral purity in order to be politically effective. Instead they'll need to learn how to analyze what strategies are the most useful.
You're spending time pressuring a post-anarchist voter to vote. Im a walking contradiction, but you won before this conversation started.
I'm spending my time asking you to pressure the Democratic Party for a coherent platform. At the point in the election cycle where they could actually have something workable for the coming elections.
They Democrats are our best electoral hope. Its time they took this seriously. If I promise to vote, can I ask you to demand the party infrastructure actually function?
I don't control the Democratic party.
Your argument is inherently accelerationist. Everyone needs to know how self-destructive it is.