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[–] IHeartBadCode@fedia.io 66 points 2 days ago (4 children)

NBC News asked about a possible scenario in which Vice President JD Vance would run for office and then pass the role to Trump. Trump responded that “that’s one” method.

That isn't a method. At in the sense that Trump obtains the title President. But we've seen during this administration that the President can delegate broad authority to others with zero questions.

So we could have a President who is still the President in name but has passed 99.9% of their duties to Trump who is an "independent contractor".

This is quite literally the foundation they're building with Musk.

[–] HarkMahlberg@kbin.earth 40 points 2 days ago (2 children)

This is what Medvedev and Putin did in the 2010's, isn't it?

[–] IHeartBadCode@fedia.io 34 points 2 days ago

Yeah. Then Putin took back the role of President using the argument that Medvedev being President allowed Putin to run again despite term limits.

Medvedev became Prime Minister, then everyone in Parliament resigned all at the exact same time, leaving the President as the only one running the place.

Putin rewrote the Constitution and that was the end of that.

[–] TronBronson@lemmy.world 11 points 2 days ago (1 children)

Lets all remember putler was a healthy man in his 50's at the time. Not a 82 year old bag of McDonalds. The putin long con isn't really there due to cheeseburgers and coronary events. Inshallah.

[–] Zippygutterslug@lemmy.world 4 points 2 days ago (1 children)

Musk plans to be the inheritor of Trump's "divine mandate." Trump will bust down all the norms and then Musk will have an easy time paving the trail Trump blazed.

[–] TronBronson@lemmy.world 3 points 2 days ago (1 children)

Theres a lot of other players on the field besides musk

[–] Zippygutterslug@lemmy.world 5 points 2 days ago (1 children)

I think you'll find a situation where one of Trump's sons becomes the president after his death, but that the presidency remains effectively "owned" by Musk the whole time.

[–] TronBronson@lemmy.world 1 points 2 days ago

Coke head don legoooo

[–] barneypiccolo@lemm.ee 12 points 2 days ago (2 children)

That's basically what Putin has done, alternating between Prime Minister and President, allowing him to stay in power indefinitely. He's probably coaching HitlerPig to do the same thing.

Vance would have to run (and win), with HitlerPig as VP, and then defer most responsibilities to HitlerPig.

There's a major problem with this. The biggest reason HitlerPig wants to be president is because he can't be prosecuted while he is president. SCOTUS gave him immunity superpowers, but that immunity does not extend to the VP. Once he does not occupy the presidency, he can be immediately arrested and prosecuted.

That depends on a lot of variables such as DoJ cooperation, pardons, etc., but he would still be vulnerable to state charges, prosecutions, and imprisonments. He may think that President Vance will protect him, but what if they all decide that HitlerPig has fulfilled his duties, and he can be thrown to the Blue State wolves, giving them some measure of revenge, taking some of the pressure off the Nazi government.

[–] Ensign_Crab@lemmy.world 6 points 2 days ago

Once he does not occupy the presidency, he can be immediately arrested and prosecuted.

Yeah, like we did in 2021.

[–] RisingSwell@lemmy.dbzer0.com 5 points 2 days ago (1 children)

Trump can't run for VP, that isn't a legal loophole. It'd just be a blatant violation of the constitution, for whatever that's worth.

[–] perestroika@lemm.ee 2 points 2 days ago

Yes. Anyone who's barred from running for president, is also automatically barred from running for vice president.

[–] Fredthefishlord@lemmy.blahaj.zone 10 points 2 days ago (1 children)

It should be very clearly stated that that is DIRECTLY contradictory to the Constitution still. You cannot be VP if you are ineligible to run for the office.

[–] IHeartBadCode@fedia.io 10 points 2 days ago

Elon Musk is neither President or Vice President, yet yields a massive amount of power for someone who is just "an independent contractor".

This is what I'm getting at. That a JD Vance President and Mike Johnson VP (let's just say for sake of illustration) could indicate they're bringing Trump on as a "consultant" and then leave their jobs largely up to him.

Technically speaking Vance would still hold the title President but Trump would be executing most of the functions.

[–] MimicJar@lemmy.world 4 points 2 days ago

The problem is that Trump doesn't need authority, he doesn't actually do anything. He needs the protections of the title. He allows things to happen and signs documents put in front of him.

Now if no one is enforcing anything then being an "independent contractor" might enough, but as laws currently exist and the precedent currently being set, he needs the actual title of President.