TranscendentalEmpire comments on When lunatics start talking about expelling all Israelis 'Back to Europe' instead of integrating them in a one-state solution

[–] TranscendentalEmpire@lemmy.today 3 points 1 year ago (4 children)

Decolonization is when you ethnically cleanse civilians for being born the wrong ethnicity. It's DEFINITELY different from genocide!"

Lol, you are ridiculously hyperbolic and purposely conflating terms to the point where they don't mean anything.

Once again you are ignoring the fact that Israel is the one who is dictating policy based on ethnicity. Meaning that it is they who makes it impossible to delineate the ethno from the state.

Would it be better if people just said Israeli nationals? Would it be ethnic cleansing if someone claimed Americans should be kicked out of tribal lands?

Literal Nazi shit. If you were raised in Israel, you'd be an enthusiastic Zionist murdering Palestinians right now.

Projecting much? You're the one defending colonialism.....

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[–] PugJesus@lemmy.world [S] -1 points 1 year ago* (3 children)

Once again you are ignoring the fact that Israel is the one who is dictating policy based on ethnicity. Meaning that it is they who makes it impossible to delineate the ethno from the state.

Christ. Imagine thinking you're an enemy of Israel while eagerly swallowing literal Israeli propaganda meant to conflate the Israeli state with those it claims to represent, and then using that to advocate genocide and come off as a lunatic antisemite. And then being proud of what a catspaw you are for Mossad. Crazy what people will do and claim as a victory.

Would it be better if people just said Israeli nationals?

No, that's literally the position that I'm criticizing, genius.

Would it be ethnic cleansing if someone claimed Americans should be kicked out of tribal lands?

If they defined 'tribal lands' as 'all of America'?

Uh, yes.

Projecting much? You’re the one defending colonialism…

I'm defending colonialism because... I don't believe genocide is the solution?

lmao

Have fun wearing a swastika armband at Israel's behest. Those of us who aren't useful idiots and literal genocide supporters have more moral things to do, like not imitating Zionists and Nazis.

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[–] TranscendentalEmpire@lemmy.today 0 points 1 year ago (2 children)

Christ. Imagine thinking you're an enemy of Israel while eagerly swallowing literal Israeli propaganda meant to conflate the Israeli state with those it claims to represent, and then using that to advocate genocide and come off as a lunatic antisemite. And then being proud of what a catspaw you are for Mossad. Crazy what people will do and claim as a victory.

Israel is an ethno-state........it is the inherent flaw of ethno-states, there is no propaganda needed. Which is why ethno-states are bad.

Again, you are the only person claiming anyone wants to genocide Israel.

No, that's literally the position that I'm criticizing, genius.

I don't think you understand what an ethno-state is.....

they defined 'tribal lands' as 'all of America'?Uh, yes.

American is not an ethnicity.....

defending colonialism because... I don't believe genocide is the solution?

Again..... Decolonization is not genocide. That is an argument made pretty much solely by colonialist. You're basically regurgitating Elon musk.

Have fun wearing a swastika armband at Israel's behest. Those of us who aren't useful idiots and literal genocide supporters have more moral things to do, like not imitating Zionists and Nazis.

Lol, you've been defending Zionist the whole time.... Please tell me, when Israel occupies Gaza and Palestinian ask them to leave....is that going to be ethnic cleansing? Or is it only ethnic cleansing if they occupy it for a generation?

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[–] PugJesus@lemmy.world [S] 1 point 1 year ago (1 child)

Again, you are the only person claiming anyone wants to genocide Israel.

You literally are advocating for ethnic cleansing, in this comment chain. You just think that because it's Good Ethnic Cleansing(tm), that makes it okay.

Sorry for not being a Zionist like you, lmao.

American is not an ethnicity…

Lord

Again… Decolonization is not genocide. That is an argument made pretty much solely by colonialist.

"It's not genocide if I say the magic words before doing it!"

It's like the 1990s all over again, but somehow even stupider.

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[–] TranscendentalEmpire@lemmy.today -1 points 1 year ago

You literally are advocating for ethnic cleansing, in this comment chain. You just think that because it's Good Ethnic Cleansing(tm), that makes it okay.

Lol, I haven't..... You're just being disingenuous as always. Or your mental illness is warping your perception. If you read the first comment I made I said it wasn't my belief but I understand why Palestinians would want Israelis to migrate back to Europe. You know considering that they are currently colonizing Palestine via genocide.

You haven't once asked about my personal opinion, you've just been asserting what you want my opinion to be because you'd rather argue with your preferred strawman.

FYI- if it were up to me I would prefer there to be no genocide, and for the Israeli government to give back the illegally seized land back to the original agreed upon borders. However, I recognize that it's not my people who are suffering from apartheid and genocide, and that those people have their own autonomy and will seek their own retribution.

Lord

Lol, what a fantastic rebuttal.....

There is a difference between nationality and ethnicity. Otherwise every war in history would be considered an ethnic cleansing, which is just not true.

It's not genocide if I say the magic words before doing it!"

"It's a genocide because I declared it so". Fucking moron.

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