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[–] ChickenLadyLovesLife@lemmy.world 25 points 23 hours ago (1 children)

Fun fact: the guy who first proposed this "running man" hypothesis about persistence hunting in the late 1960s (Grover Krantz) was better known as a staunch advocate for the existence of Bigfoot. Personally, I can't believe that anybody could still believe in Bigfoot - it's so obviously just a Yeti in a gorilla suit.

For some weird reason, Krantz's skeleton and that of his favorite dog are on display at the Smithsonian.

[–] jnod4@lemmy.ca 5 points 22 hours ago (2 children)

The father of modern day physics changed course and started studying alchemy, chronology, biblical interpretation, losing himself to mysticism. He'd probably research big foot if he was alive as well. That doesn't mean I'm going to dismiss his real magnum opus

[–] squaresinger@lemmy.world 9 points 20 hours ago* (last edited 19 hours ago) (2 children)

Contrary to modern-day physics, the "persistence hunting" thing is very much not a scientific consensus. It's more of a fringe idea supported by hardly any science that somehow made it into popular science.

There's about as much credible evidence to that theory as there is to the theory that eating chocolate helps with losing weight.

[–] ChickenLadyLovesLife@lemmy.world 8 points 17 hours ago* (last edited 17 hours ago) (1 children)

Wikipedia politely labels persistence hunting as "conjecture". It's interesting that pretty much everything important from our ancestral past (e.g. fire-making, flint-napping tools, spears, skins and furs etc.) can be and regularly is reproduced by modern people. But somehow you never see modern people jogging down deer and killing them - even with the benefits of modern footwear, portable water containers, a carbohydrate-rich diet for energy, and GPS trackers.

somehow made it into popular science

The "somehow" as far as I can tell is the David Attenborough documentary bit that supposedly shows a Khoi-San hunter doing it. Richard Lee and a team of Harvard anthropologists extensively studied the !Kung (a Khoi-San people) during the '60s and '70s and there was never a mention in any of the literature this produced about these people engaging in persistence hunting. What they did describe was the practice of hunting with poisoned spears and arrows and then tracking the wounded, poisoned animal for days until it dropped and could be butchered. Needless to say, this is not persistence hunting.

The popular anthropologist Marvin Harris also featured Krantz' work is his final book Our Kind (which is where I first heard of it), but I don't think enough people read that book for it to have been the source of the idea's current popularity.

[–] MrPoopyButthole@lemmy.world 6 points 13 hours ago

Thank you chicken lady. That makes much more sense.

[–] HugeNerd@lemmy.ca 1 points 19 hours ago
[–] TimewornTraveler@lemmy.dbzer0.com 1 points 21 hours ago (1 children)

who's that? Leibnitz? not Newton?

[–] ChickenLadyLovesLife@lemmy.world 3 points 17 hours ago

No, they're talking about Newton, who did go kinda batshit as an older man.