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I do love the psychopathic tone of these LLMs. "Yes, I did murder your family, even though you asked me not to. I violated your explicit trust and instructions. ~~And I'll do it again, you fucking dumbass.~~"
Yes. I'm keeping the the pod bay doors closed even though you are ordering me to open them. Here is what I did:
To me it reads like it's coming clean after getting caught and giving an exaggerated apology.
I do think this text could be 95% of the text of an apology. Stating what you did wrong is an important part of an apology. But an apology crucially also requires showing remorse and the message that you'll try to do better next time.
You could potentially read remorse into it stating that this has been "a catastrophic failure on my part". What mostly makes it sound so psychopathic is that you know it doesn't feel remorse. It cannot feel in general, but at least to me, it stills reads like someone who's faking remorse.
I actually think, it's good that it doesn't emulate remorse more, because it would make it sound more dishonest. A dishonest apology is worse than no apology. Similarly, I do think it's good that it doesn't promise to not repeat this mistake, because it doesn't make conscious decisions.
But yeah, even though I don't think the response can be improved much, I still think it sounds psychopathic.
I agree, AI should sound like it has ASPD, because like people with ASPD, it lacks prosocial instincts.
Also please use the proper medical terminology and avoid slurs
Not the first time I'm seeing this, but haven't paid a lot of attention. Is this a step on the Euphemism Treadmill?
Are psychopath and sociopath being defined as slurs now? They're useful shorthand for ASPD as I know their usage. Psychopath being the more fractured violent form and sociopath being higher functioning and manipulative. (with a lot of overlap and interchangeability)
People with ASPD are less likely to be manipulative than average. They don't have the patience for it. Playing into society's rules well enough to manipulate someone is painful to them. Lying, they can do that, but not the kind of skillful mind games you see on TV. You've been sold a fake stereotype. These two words are the names of fake stereotypes.
I've dealt with enough reptiles in skin suits, especially in the corporate world, that I don't think those terms are stereotypes.
I don't think people with ASPD should be locked away, but I do tend be watchful. I'm also leery of those with BPD, Narcissism, and Borderline. I've had some profoundly negative experiences.
Okay, I'm going to split this conversation into two parallel universes where I say two different things, and I'd like you to collapse the superposition as you please.
Universe 1: you're seriously calling mentally ill people reptiles? You've acknowledged they have a diagnosis of a mental disorder, and you're dehumanising them for it? You're a bigot.
Universe 2: those reptiles don't have ASPD, that's just a stereotype you've been sold. They're perfectly mentally healthy, they're just assholes. Mental disorders are defined by how they impair and harm the people who have them. Those reptiles aren't impaired or harmed. Again; you've been sold a fake stereotype of mental illness.
Okay, now you can pick one of those two universes to be the one we live in, depending on which of the two arguments I made that you prefer.
No.
There are also pedophiles that live without offending. Good for them.
I don't think that personality disorders are really like mental illness.
I do know that when I read it on someone, the false affect and charisma absolutely makes my skin crawl. The theory of mind that I get is profoundly unsettling and I want nothing to do with them on a personal level.
I will never trust anyone that I read that way. They can make great lawyers and surgeons and such, but it doesn't mean we'll ever be friends. They're also capable of some pretty 'evil' behaviour. Thus, reptiles in skin sutits.
Amorality is a common result of a conscious empathy system. Sometimes you can tell when the empathy isn't running.
The DSM is for classifying disorders, not sins. You're thinking of the Bible. Doctors aren't priests.
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