Why would you, a hypothetical animal rights activist, blame vegans and not the animal rights group for being shit.

Why would I not blame both? The animal rights group for not putting forward a radical enough solution, and the vegans in question for perpetuating animal suffering out of some bizarre sense of spiritualist purity.

“It’s just politics” is literally the argument of vote blue no matter who:that’s just what you have to do in politics. Sure they’re imperfect, technically true but not how I’d describe someone pro genocide, but you gotta vote for them.

No, the argument of "Vote Blue no matter who" is that the Republicans have degenerated into an openly fascist party and it is necessary to oppose them for the health and safety of minority groups.

If your choice is a shit sandwich or getting your head pulped by a steamroller, choose the sandwich.

“Don’t look at me, I’m pure, I voted democrat in the general”

Fuck man, where do you get that idea? I've openly stated before that by voting for Harris, the burden of accepting insufficient opposition to Palestinian genocide, at minimum, is on my soul. The issue is that had I chose to NOT vote for Harris, the burden of accepting indifference to the intensification of the Palestinian genocide would have been on me.

I'm not pure. I made the least-bad decision. It's all we fucking can do in this life.

” Purity politics is a meaningless term, vegans aren’t purity politicking (politicing sp?)any more or less than you are, they have a moral outlook and they act on it same as you.

Bruh, purity politics is a term which means preferring a deonotological or virtue ethics approach to voting over a utilitarian one - ie saying that some internal sense of values is preferable to the actual lives of human beings in voting, an action which is, itself, a strategic choice, not a fucking love letter.

You can say "They just morally disagree with you!" and that's true in a sense - but Trump voters also just 'morally disagree with me', and I'm no less pissed at them for that.

. Voting republican is abhorrent, voting dem is self defeating (I hope we agree voting pro-genocide is self defeating to an anti-genocise outlook) so what’s a sucker left to do? Not vote, vote something else, bring out the guillotines…

Vote Dem, then work on bringing out the guillotines. That's what Harm Reduction means.

Voting Dem takes, at most, two days a year, depending on how often you have municipal elections. You have 363 days a year for other organizing - and if you live in a state with unfucked polling places, or even better, mail-in ballots, it doesn't even take a whole day.

"Stop the immediately promised genocide and the worsening of literally every issue I give a shit about AND damaging leftist organizing" is worth two days a year, I think.

It’s all a bit shit, and to get angry at them for it is ludicrous.

It's all a bit shit. Every option we have in life is a bit shit. Even if the leftists got their way, even if this was a left country (God, if only), we would STILL be dealing with shit options, and we would STILL be obligated to work towards the LESS shit of them. And getting angry at people who voted - or sat on their asses - for fascists to send me to a death camp is a pretty mild reaction, all things considered.

Dem leadership made the vote what it was. Dem leadership ignored how people actually play the “ultimatum game”. Dem leadership is who you should be hate posting about.

Bruh, everyone on Lemmy already fucking hates the DNC. Except for the kicks I'd get out of photoshopping Pelosi's head into a guillotine, it wouldn't do much. Reminding people that the less vile option is mandatory when going up against literal Nazis has a chance of shifting or maintaining the narrative, currently contentious, that purity-politics voting is not kosher.

I, an omnivore, don’t get annoyed at vegans posting about how cruel the meat industry is, because they’re right. I do get annoyed at how cruel the meat industry is as I’m supporting them though. I punch up at those in power, not down.

But what if vegans posting about how cruel the meat industry is campaigned against, and ultimately sank by a measly 1% of the vote, your initiative to reduce the cruelty of the meat industry?

Would that not be a reason to be upset? They had a chance to reduce suffering, and they chose to sink it - not for some alternative, but just because it was not pure enough. Why would that be good or acceptable to you? Would you not be upset that more animals would suffer needlessly and pointlessly for this? If you would not be upset, how much do you really care about the issue to begin with?