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Well, we have the fucking camps opening. Luckily, plenty of terminally online leftists are ready to tell us how noble and moral not voting was! (europe.pub)
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[–] [S] -3 points 1 year ago (4 children)

Not the fucking liberal democrats who had the power and responsibility to get people to vote for them.

You're absolutely right, our aristocratic overlords are the only ones with any responsibility; it's okay for 'leftist' voters to let Nazis win if the Dem elites aren't entertaining enough for them. Minority lives are only worth however much they make you feel good for voting at the ballot box.

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  • [–] 2 points 1 year ago (3 children)

    Alright lets break this down,

    1. You're implying there's only two options, either vote blue no matter who or enable facism and Nazis. This removes literally all guilt and dismisses legit and continuous criticism of the Democrats actions and shortcomings.

    2. You're straw-manning leftists arguments as shallow or selfish by making it about "how good you feel voting at the ballot box" yet our critiques are expressly aimed at policy failures of Democrats. We want healthcare, we want to end the wars, we want better foreign policy decisions, etc etc but somehow you can just sum it up as "you want to feel good when voting"

    OF COURSE I want to feel good while voting, because I have fucking morals and I do not believe we should actively hand power to people who are not going to follow through with what they say, as the Democrats have done for my entire life paying attention to politics.

    1. You're completely overlooking accountability of the democratic party in every way, the Democratic Party decides their platform, turnout strategy and need to inspire voters to vote for them. You're deflecting all blame they absolutely SHOULD GET away from the powerful "aristocracy" as you put it.

    2. You completely ignore structural issues in our voting system like gerrymandering, voter suppression and the two party system itself. You're blaming individuals for a system we had no hand in creating.

    Ultimately you're just trying to weaponize guilt, overly simplify complex issues to suit your narrative, misrepresent leftist views and evade accountability through emotional arguments.

    Look inward and be better, or more likely given your amount of posting, find a different job.

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  • [–] [S] 1 point 1 year ago* (2 children)

    You’re implying there’s only two options, either vote blue no matter who or enable facism and Nazis.

    Uh, considering that the two options were "Blue cretin" or "The literal Nazi" in 2024 in a FPTP system where both parties had near-majority support?

    Yes. By definition, that's true.

    This removes literally all guilt and dismisses legit and continuous criticism of the Democrats actions and shortcomings.

    Fucking what.

    Jesus Christ, do you just have an imaginary lib in your head you're arguing with or something?

    You’re completely overlooking accountability of the democratic party in every way, the Democratic Party decides their platform, turnout strategy and need to inspire voters to vote for them. You’re deflecting all blame they absolutely SHOULD GET away from the powerful “aristocracy” as you put it.

    Would you like to remind me who elects the people in charge of the Dem party?

    Go ahead. Remind me.

    You’re straw-manning leftists arguments as shallow or selfish by making it about “how good you feel voting at the ballot box” yet our critiques are expressly aimed at policy failures of Democrats. We want healthcare, we want to end the wars, we want better foreign policy decisions, etc etc but somehow you can just sum it up as “you want to feel good when voting”

    OF COURSE I want to feel good while voting, because I have fucking morals and I do not believe we should actively hand power to people who are not going to follow through with what they say, as the Democrats have done for my entire life paying attention to politics.

    "We want these things, so we're going to let the Nazis win"

    Fucking brilliant. Enjoy the blood on your hands, Nazi. Glad you felt good about supporting Nazis, at least. It would be horrible if you felt bad about murdering minorities.

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