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[–] boonhet@sopuli.xyz 14 points 4 days ago* (last edited 4 days ago) (2 children)

A lot of these people were in the military before the second Trump admin made it obvious that they're going to have to work for an actual fascist dictatorship.

Secondly, for a lot of young people, the G.I Bill is the only real way to afford an education. You know that whole student debt issue that is crippling people financially for decades? Joining the military is a way to bypass that.

[–] flandish@lemmy.world 12 points 4 days ago (1 children)

The uncomfortable pill is that at any point in the last many decades (ie: after abolishment of the draft) there was no good reason to join. WMDs? Known lie. Vietnam and not drafted? Known lie. (Tonkin was a lie)

That GI bill part is so very true and sad. It’s on purpose, of course. Expensive college and poor people means … more fodder.

[–] JandroDelSol@lemmy.world 3 points 4 days ago (1 children)

The last honorable war we were in was WWII, anyone who signed up after the Korean war is a murderer.

[–] flandish@lemmy.world 3 points 4 days ago (1 children)

I would posit only portions of our behavior in ww1 and ww2 were honorable. Supporting the creation of zionist colonialism and nuking a couple cities is … not honorable. Also, I tried to say it and it may have come across odd but those drafted are prisoners compared to those who volunteered. They are not the same.

[–] JandroDelSol@lemmy.world 3 points 3 days ago

Yeah, true, we definitely did some fucked up shit in the world wars, but at least I can respect the people who joined.

Also, full sympathy to those who were drafted. I should have put more emphasis on "signed up"

[–] restingboredface@sh.itjust.works 9 points 4 days ago (2 children)

Plus, it's not like you can just join the military and quit when you don't like how things are going. Unless things have changed radically, when you enlist you're signing up for 3,6 or even 8 years of service with very little recourse for getting out (without messing up your career and maybe even your life).

I'm sure for a lot of people working in the military is just a job. It's a luxury to choose jobs based on personal politics and a lot of people can't afford that now.

[–] aesthelete@lemmy.world 5 points 4 days ago (1 children)

I agree with a lot of the stuff being said here, but it doesn't really help the case of service members that they pretty overwhelmingly voted for Trump.

Yeah I know. Coming from military parents, I'm trying to not judge people too much since i know theres amazing people who serve, but I agree there's strong maga bro energy in the military and it sucks.

[–] 0x0@lemmy.zip 1 points 4 days ago

Can you choose not to e deployed?