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Yeah those are fucking illegal where I live, as are prong collars and crating for long periods of time. All of those are animal abuse, and negative re-inforcement is a terrible way to train any animal anyway (humans included)
What about crating your children?
Asking for a friend.
Put a computer in their room and they will crate themselves.
I don't know, I feel like those would be effective in training Trump not to be a pedo. Worth a shot at least. Say 10 years of daily training before we decide on its efficacy.
This is a tangent but I find it so sad when crate abuse happens to dogs, because my family's dog loved his crate as a safe space. My dad was really firm that the kids weren't allowed to cuddle the dog while they were in their crate, because it was important that the crate remained a safe space for the dog. It was cute to see how she would run there when scared by something like thunder and how it really seemed to help her anxiety.
I'm glad that worked for you!
I just think having a cage sitting in my house looks really ugly.
We were fortunate in that there was a weirdly shaped nook where a decently large cage could fit naturally. It also helped that it had a large blanket draped over it. I imagine many people would struggle to find space for a sufficiently large cage (depending on how large the dog is), or to make it look unobtrusive.
I was less arguing in favour of dog cages, more arguing against the misuse of them.
Yeah, my dog's crate was basically his little apartment lol.