▲ 893 ▼ Disney reportedly lost 1.7 million paid subscribers in the week after suspending Kimmel (www.engadget.com) submitted 1 year ago by mesamunefire@piefed.social to c/technology@lemmy.world 106 comments fedilink hide all child comments
[–] JumpyWombat@lemmy.ml 86 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (20 children) . permalink fedilink source hideshow 20 child comments replies: [–] tyler@programming.dev 43 points 1 year ago (6 children) It’s noticeable when you look at the price of the subscription. That’s almost $300 million. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 6 child comments replies: [+] JumpyWombat@lemmy.ml 22 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (5 children) [deleted] permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 5 child comments replies: [–] tyler@programming.dev 46 points 1 year ago (1 child) That loss affects their stock price, their future outlook, what things they choose to fund, and how much they spend on advertising and trying to recover from this PR disaster. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [+] JumpyWombat@lemmy.ml 12 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) [deleted] permalink fedilink source parent [–] sexual_tomato@lemmy.dbzer0.com 22 points 1 year ago (1 child) My wage doesn't have a cost of goods sold line item. If I take in $5b and make $5.5b in revenue, $300m is > 1/2 of my net profit permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [+] JumpyWombat@lemmy.ml -3 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) [deleted] permalink fedilink source parent [–] fmstrat@lemmy.nowsci.com 1 point 1 year ago This is flawed thinking. There is no "them" with a huge salary. The people making decisions are salaried or invested employees, and their livelihood depends on the stock regardless. There isn't "one guy" that this hits, like it would with a salary, there's thousands of investors which must be appeased. Also, it's likely many of those canceling were people who didn't use the service as much as power users, which means they're losing the cheapest to maintain customers (industry insight, no research to back this up, to be clear). If we had boycotts and cancelations even a quarter this big across other media giants, our media would be a far better place. permalink fedilink source parent [–] calliope@retrolemmy.com 10 points 1 year ago (1 child) A previously-posted Gizmodo article said Kabas reports that 1.7 million was 436% above a subscriber loss that’s typical for the same period Which I thought was very useful. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] shalafi@lemmy.world 3 points 1 year ago Kabas is the reporter and I still haven't seen where they got that number. permalink fedilink source parent [–] cygnus@lemmy.ca 6 points 1 year ago (7 children) If my googling is right, in total there are ~207 million subscribers. This says 128M, which seems far more plausible. https://variety.com/2025/tv/news/disney-stop-reporting-subscriber-numbers-disney-plus-hulu-espn-1236480413/ permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 7 child comments replies: [–] JumpyWombat@lemmy.ml 8 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (6 children) . permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 6 child comments replies: [–] cygnus@lemmy.ca 3 points 1 year ago (5 children) I don't think those numbers are additive like that - you'd be double-counting people. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 5 child comments replies: [–] meliante@lemmy.pt 2 points 1 year ago (4 children) They pay more than once as well? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] cygnus@lemmy.ca 3 points 1 year ago (3 children) True - I guess it depends on whether we're defining "subscribers" as people or total paid accounts. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 3 child comments replies: [–] meliante@lemmy.pt 2 points 1 year ago Corporate says the biggest number. permalink fedilink source parent [–] Holytimes@sh.itjust.works 1 point 1 year ago (1 child) Total paid account is the number that gets counted. That's what a subscriber is after all. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] cygnus@lemmy.ca 1 point 1 year ago Should cable subscribers be counted 200 times, once for each channel? permalink fedilink source parent [–] Ilovethebomb@sh.itjust.works 5 points 1 year ago I suspect they'd have lost a lot more if this dragged on longer, he was back in a few days. permalink fedilink source parent [–] Eq0@literature.cafe 4 points 1 year ago (1 child) Consider that the full number is world wide. How many of them are US based or US involved? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [+] JumpyWombat@lemmy.ml 4 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) [deleted] permalink fedilink source parent
[–] tyler@programming.dev 43 points 1 year ago (6 children) It’s noticeable when you look at the price of the subscription. That’s almost $300 million. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 6 child comments replies: [+] JumpyWombat@lemmy.ml 22 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (5 children) [deleted] permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 5 child comments replies: [–] tyler@programming.dev 46 points 1 year ago (1 child) That loss affects their stock price, their future outlook, what things they choose to fund, and how much they spend on advertising and trying to recover from this PR disaster. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [+] JumpyWombat@lemmy.ml 12 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) [deleted] permalink fedilink source parent [–] sexual_tomato@lemmy.dbzer0.com 22 points 1 year ago (1 child) My wage doesn't have a cost of goods sold line item. If I take in $5b and make $5.5b in revenue, $300m is > 1/2 of my net profit permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [+] JumpyWombat@lemmy.ml -3 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) [deleted] permalink fedilink source parent [–] fmstrat@lemmy.nowsci.com 1 point 1 year ago This is flawed thinking. There is no "them" with a huge salary. The people making decisions are salaried or invested employees, and their livelihood depends on the stock regardless. There isn't "one guy" that this hits, like it would with a salary, there's thousands of investors which must be appeased. Also, it's likely many of those canceling were people who didn't use the service as much as power users, which means they're losing the cheapest to maintain customers (industry insight, no research to back this up, to be clear). If we had boycotts and cancelations even a quarter this big across other media giants, our media would be a far better place. permalink fedilink source parent
[+] JumpyWombat@lemmy.ml 22 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (5 children) [deleted] permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 5 child comments replies: [–] tyler@programming.dev 46 points 1 year ago (1 child) That loss affects their stock price, their future outlook, what things they choose to fund, and how much they spend on advertising and trying to recover from this PR disaster. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [+] JumpyWombat@lemmy.ml 12 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) [deleted] permalink fedilink source parent [–] sexual_tomato@lemmy.dbzer0.com 22 points 1 year ago (1 child) My wage doesn't have a cost of goods sold line item. If I take in $5b and make $5.5b in revenue, $300m is > 1/2 of my net profit permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [+] JumpyWombat@lemmy.ml -3 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) [deleted] permalink fedilink source parent [–] fmstrat@lemmy.nowsci.com 1 point 1 year ago This is flawed thinking. There is no "them" with a huge salary. The people making decisions are salaried or invested employees, and their livelihood depends on the stock regardless. There isn't "one guy" that this hits, like it would with a salary, there's thousands of investors which must be appeased. Also, it's likely many of those canceling were people who didn't use the service as much as power users, which means they're losing the cheapest to maintain customers (industry insight, no research to back this up, to be clear). If we had boycotts and cancelations even a quarter this big across other media giants, our media would be a far better place. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] tyler@programming.dev 46 points 1 year ago (1 child) That loss affects their stock price, their future outlook, what things they choose to fund, and how much they spend on advertising and trying to recover from this PR disaster. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [+] JumpyWombat@lemmy.ml 12 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) [deleted] permalink fedilink source parent
[+] JumpyWombat@lemmy.ml 12 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) [deleted] permalink fedilink source parent
[–] sexual_tomato@lemmy.dbzer0.com 22 points 1 year ago (1 child) My wage doesn't have a cost of goods sold line item. If I take in $5b and make $5.5b in revenue, $300m is > 1/2 of my net profit permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [+] JumpyWombat@lemmy.ml -3 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) [deleted] permalink fedilink source parent
[+] JumpyWombat@lemmy.ml -3 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) [deleted] permalink fedilink source parent
[–] fmstrat@lemmy.nowsci.com 1 point 1 year ago This is flawed thinking. There is no "them" with a huge salary. The people making decisions are salaried or invested employees, and their livelihood depends on the stock regardless. There isn't "one guy" that this hits, like it would with a salary, there's thousands of investors which must be appeased. Also, it's likely many of those canceling were people who didn't use the service as much as power users, which means they're losing the cheapest to maintain customers (industry insight, no research to back this up, to be clear). If we had boycotts and cancelations even a quarter this big across other media giants, our media would be a far better place. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] calliope@retrolemmy.com 10 points 1 year ago (1 child) A previously-posted Gizmodo article said Kabas reports that 1.7 million was 436% above a subscriber loss that’s typical for the same period Which I thought was very useful. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] shalafi@lemmy.world 3 points 1 year ago Kabas is the reporter and I still haven't seen where they got that number. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] shalafi@lemmy.world 3 points 1 year ago Kabas is the reporter and I still haven't seen where they got that number. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] cygnus@lemmy.ca 6 points 1 year ago (7 children) If my googling is right, in total there are ~207 million subscribers. This says 128M, which seems far more plausible. https://variety.com/2025/tv/news/disney-stop-reporting-subscriber-numbers-disney-plus-hulu-espn-1236480413/ permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 7 child comments replies: [–] JumpyWombat@lemmy.ml 8 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (6 children) . permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 6 child comments replies: [–] cygnus@lemmy.ca 3 points 1 year ago (5 children) I don't think those numbers are additive like that - you'd be double-counting people. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 5 child comments replies: [–] meliante@lemmy.pt 2 points 1 year ago (4 children) They pay more than once as well? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] cygnus@lemmy.ca 3 points 1 year ago (3 children) True - I guess it depends on whether we're defining "subscribers" as people or total paid accounts. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 3 child comments replies: [–] meliante@lemmy.pt 2 points 1 year ago Corporate says the biggest number. permalink fedilink source parent [–] Holytimes@sh.itjust.works 1 point 1 year ago (1 child) Total paid account is the number that gets counted. That's what a subscriber is after all. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] cygnus@lemmy.ca 1 point 1 year ago Should cable subscribers be counted 200 times, once for each channel? permalink fedilink source parent
[–] JumpyWombat@lemmy.ml 8 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (6 children) . permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 6 child comments replies: [–] cygnus@lemmy.ca 3 points 1 year ago (5 children) I don't think those numbers are additive like that - you'd be double-counting people. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 5 child comments replies: [–] meliante@lemmy.pt 2 points 1 year ago (4 children) They pay more than once as well? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] cygnus@lemmy.ca 3 points 1 year ago (3 children) True - I guess it depends on whether we're defining "subscribers" as people or total paid accounts. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 3 child comments replies: [–] meliante@lemmy.pt 2 points 1 year ago Corporate says the biggest number. permalink fedilink source parent [–] Holytimes@sh.itjust.works 1 point 1 year ago (1 child) Total paid account is the number that gets counted. That's what a subscriber is after all. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] cygnus@lemmy.ca 1 point 1 year ago Should cable subscribers be counted 200 times, once for each channel? permalink fedilink source parent
[–] cygnus@lemmy.ca 3 points 1 year ago (5 children) I don't think those numbers are additive like that - you'd be double-counting people. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 5 child comments replies: [–] meliante@lemmy.pt 2 points 1 year ago (4 children) They pay more than once as well? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] cygnus@lemmy.ca 3 points 1 year ago (3 children) True - I guess it depends on whether we're defining "subscribers" as people or total paid accounts. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 3 child comments replies: [–] meliante@lemmy.pt 2 points 1 year ago Corporate says the biggest number. permalink fedilink source parent [–] Holytimes@sh.itjust.works 1 point 1 year ago (1 child) Total paid account is the number that gets counted. That's what a subscriber is after all. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] cygnus@lemmy.ca 1 point 1 year ago Should cable subscribers be counted 200 times, once for each channel? permalink fedilink source parent
[–] meliante@lemmy.pt 2 points 1 year ago (4 children) They pay more than once as well? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] cygnus@lemmy.ca 3 points 1 year ago (3 children) True - I guess it depends on whether we're defining "subscribers" as people or total paid accounts. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 3 child comments replies: [–] meliante@lemmy.pt 2 points 1 year ago Corporate says the biggest number. permalink fedilink source parent [–] Holytimes@sh.itjust.works 1 point 1 year ago (1 child) Total paid account is the number that gets counted. That's what a subscriber is after all. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] cygnus@lemmy.ca 1 point 1 year ago Should cable subscribers be counted 200 times, once for each channel? permalink fedilink source parent
[–] cygnus@lemmy.ca 3 points 1 year ago (3 children) True - I guess it depends on whether we're defining "subscribers" as people or total paid accounts. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 3 child comments replies: [–] meliante@lemmy.pt 2 points 1 year ago Corporate says the biggest number. permalink fedilink source parent [–] Holytimes@sh.itjust.works 1 point 1 year ago (1 child) Total paid account is the number that gets counted. That's what a subscriber is after all. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] cygnus@lemmy.ca 1 point 1 year ago Should cable subscribers be counted 200 times, once for each channel? permalink fedilink source parent
[–] meliante@lemmy.pt 2 points 1 year ago Corporate says the biggest number. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] Holytimes@sh.itjust.works 1 point 1 year ago (1 child) Total paid account is the number that gets counted. That's what a subscriber is after all. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] cygnus@lemmy.ca 1 point 1 year ago Should cable subscribers be counted 200 times, once for each channel? permalink fedilink source parent
[–] cygnus@lemmy.ca 1 point 1 year ago Should cable subscribers be counted 200 times, once for each channel? permalink fedilink source parent
[–] Ilovethebomb@sh.itjust.works 5 points 1 year ago I suspect they'd have lost a lot more if this dragged on longer, he was back in a few days. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] Eq0@literature.cafe 4 points 1 year ago (1 child) Consider that the full number is world wide. How many of them are US based or US involved? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [+] JumpyWombat@lemmy.ml 4 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) [deleted] permalink fedilink source parent
[+] JumpyWombat@lemmy.ml 4 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) [deleted] permalink fedilink source parent