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Microsoft killed Win 10 support to rob you of your rights. Fight back by installing Linux. (subscribeto.me)
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In this video, I reveal why Microsoft ended Windows 10 support in October 2025? The answer is simple: they want to rob you of your digital sovereignty. They won't be happy until each and every one ...

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[–] 4 points 11 months ago (15 children)

I haven't run Linux for probably 20 years until last week when I replaced my windows 10 with Tumbleweed. It's definitely better than I remember for driver compatibility but it's still not good enough for a general windows replacement.

Videos don't play without hiccups, sometimes my keyboard and mouse don't work when the PC wakes up and I needed to install Mint in distrobox to get some software working.

Also people have been trained to troubleshoot by clicking and Linux still mostly demands troubleshooting via the terminal and that's a deal breaker for many people.

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  • [–] 7 points 11 months ago (2 children)

    Funny thing is I'm so used to working in the CLI in Linux for work that I groan if I have to work through any gui like x windows.

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  • [–] 4 points 11 months ago (1 child)

    Yeah I think that's probably the most common attitude amongst people comfortable with Linux but it's not helpful for the "just install Linux" movement.

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  • [–] 1 point 11 months ago

    Idk I think it can be.

    I tell them not to be afraid of the terminal, but do be careful of sudo, and keep backups on a separate drive so worst case scenario you reinstall, it's free. It's not as scary as it seems, and if you put in a little effort (like literally just watch a few "linux terminal for beginners" or "bash for beginners" videos on youtube) it'll soon become your preferred way to do a lot of shit very quickly, and at least if I'm wrong there you'll be comfortable enough to fix your shit when you need to.

    But do keep those backups, because it's entirely likely you'll at least fuck one install up beyond repair (or at least beyond repair you can do right now while noob and a reinstall is trivial.) And don't bother with vim at first, use nano until you "need" to upgrade from nano (if ever).

    I like to think that it's more helpful then "trust me bro you'll never need it" because it's entirely likely that at some point they will, unless they just web browse. But it really isn't that bad and they probably will love it when the fear subsides, happened to me, and to countless others before me.

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  • [–] 0 points 11 months ago (11 children)

    why not use mint by default?

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  • [–] 4 points 11 months ago (10 children)

    Because there's no global list of what will and won't work so no way to know if Mint will be overall better or worse and I am completely disinterested in distrohopping.

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  • [–] 4 points 11 months ago (5 children)

    Opensuse tends to require more knowledge and manual setup for everything to work as expected, as an example, installing the Nvidia driver, common patent encumbered video codecs, and other commonly used software requires a third party repository to be installed first. Mint does not, it all just works out of the box.

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  • [–] 1 point 11 months ago (4 children)

    Fedora works the same as suse in that regard and I'm gonna be honest it's not a huge secret. If you search "what to do after installing fedora" there's 300 listicles and "install nonfree repos" is like #3 after change hostname and update your system, and they just give you the commands/tutorial for all that. I imagine suse is much the same.

    Though I do think Fedora now has an "install nonfree repos" checkbox on install, but it wasn't like that until like ver 40.

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  • [–] 1 point 11 months ago* (3 children)

    It's not a big issue for someone technically inclined, but we often lose sight of how much of a barrier things like that can be for a more average user, who is also completely new to Linux. It's not going to leave a good taste in their mouth to have to figure this stuff out right off, compared to Windows where it just works. That's not to mention the increased difficulty of installing the Nvidia driver in either Opensuse, Fedora, or even standard Debian. To someone who has never had to install a new repo or use the command-line, it's likely going to feel daunting and a big step back compared to windows, even if to us it's no big deal.

    At the end of the day, Mint just doesn't have those problems to solve, and doesn't really have many practical downsides for most users, which makes it the ideal on boarding experience with the least friction, and thus the highest chance of a new user sticking with it.

    Though I do think Fedora now has an “install nonfree repos” checkbox on install

    Unfortunately that option only provides some non-free codecs, I still couldn't play some video files when I tried it. I recall it took installing the VLC Flatpak (and ensure it's not a Flatpak from the Fedora flatpaks repo, which bring their own problems), before I could finally play certain videos, but I already knew enough to even try that. A newbie probably wouldn't know that the flatpak version would have its own codecs bundled in, and would have to do further research to figure out why a video isn't playing even after enabling the non-free codec option in the install.

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  • [–] 1 point 11 months ago (2 children)

    I really wouldn't have described myself as technically inclined when googling "what to do after installing fedora" lol. I'm in the generation in between "never touched a computer because old" and "never touched a computer because iPhones," so maybe that alone puts me above average, but within my age group I'm far from the best. I was also completely new to linux (android doesn't count). I did however figure out how to copy/paste a few lines into the terminal and hit "enter" and "y" a few times though, windows also has copy/paste functionality so that transferred over.

    Mint is cool too, though. I just ended up going with Fedora and then FedoraKDE, and the extra modicum of setup with walkthroughs was easy (because of the walkthroughs mainly, but my point is they're very visible.)

    Interesting you still had codec issues though, I've installed fedora a bunch of times over the years now and never once had that issue on regular vlc after running

    sudo dnf install gstreamer1-plugins-bad-free gstreamer1-plugins-ugly-free gstreamer1-plugins-good gstreamer1-plugins-base && sudo dnf install gstreamer1-plugins-bad-nonfree gstreamer1-plugins-ugly-nonfree && sudo dnf install lame && sudo dnf install ffmpeg gstreamer1-plugins-libav && sudo dnf install libdvdcss

    All of which I just copied and chained together from such a tutorial because of course I can't remember all that (though I have a cleaner version in my "new system" script by now. I was just lazily providing an example instead of actually making it one pretty command, irl the newbie would simply run one after the other without the &&s anyway but you get what I mean). I'd be curious to know what still won't run after all that, if you happen to know.

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  • [–] 1 point 11 months ago (1 child)

    I would say being willing to troubleshoot, find adequate directions, implement them, and even figuring out how to chain those commands together, would make you fairly technically inclined. At the very least it would make you unusually open-minded about learning and trying new things (being here on lemmy further points to that).

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  • [–] 2 points 11 months ago (2 children)

    Well there's "spin up a live usb and do some testing before your baremetal install" which is a crucial step that many ignore. But due to the nature of not being a proprietary OS installed by manufacturers who test things, instead being mostly up to the community to make things work, you'll likely always have to do a little set up, or just buy a system76 with linux preinstalled and it'll be closer for those who just can't be bothered to do things for themselves.

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  • [–] 1 point 11 months ago (1 child)

    I'm not complaining about my experience, I'm saying I don't think Linux is ready to be a replacement for many Windows users.

    You clearly agree because you say "spin up a live USB and do some testing".

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  • [–] 2 points 11 months ago

    Idk I don't think windows users are as mentally handicapped as both we and those windows users themselves like to pretend, I think they're just lazy.

    Excluding like the elderly and stuff who barely know more than a pen and paper, and seemingly now children who have never used anything but an iphone, but like, average people? I'd expect they can "learn things," yes. Tbh windows isn't as "just works" as advertised either and they likely already have to learn something every now and again (though then again every fix for windows after 8 seems to boil down to "reinstall it loser" so maybe not.)

    The culture of immediacy has been such a detriment on our society.

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  • [–] 1 point 11 months ago

    i haven't actually used tumbleweed or fedora except for booting a liveusb, but based on this thread, it's a lot more complicated than mint, mint is really just install and use. the most "complicated" part is finding the stuff i want from the software manager, and maybe tweaking things to your liking. oh and if you have an nvidia card, you have to select the driver version you want to use in the built in driver manager

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