▲ 65 ▼ Are canadians friendly to people from other countries? (lemmy.world) submitted 10 months ago by MeowerMisfit817@lemmy.world to c/canada@lemmy.ca 74 comments fedilink hide all child comments I plan on traveling to Canada, but I do have this worry. To be more specific, I'm not kinda black, my skin's somehow white, but I have black relatives, which means I got wavy hair and some other things.
[–] altasshet@lemmy.ca 4 points 10 months ago (18 children) Not all of us are jerks :( permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 18 child comments replies: [–] Sunshine@lemmy.ca 4 points 10 months ago (17 children) The majority are though. I didn't feel safe when I last went there. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 17 child comments replies: [–] altasshet@lemmy.ca 2 points 10 months ago* I'm not gonna pretend everything is fine and dandy here. Not an Alberta native, and a lot of things still shock me even after 3 years here (how dominant religion is in some segments of the population, all the fucking trucks everywhere all the time, people keep on voting conservative despite, well, everything they're actually doing...). But I don't think it's as big of a majority as one would think. FPTP politics will distort reality and make the place look more conservative than it really is. All that to say - I get the negative image, and the reality on the ground will vary based on where you are and who you meet. Hopefully we can get the place into a state where people feel safe coming here. permalink fedilink source parent [–] FaceDeer@fedia.io 1 point 10 months ago (15 children) Do they dismiss entire provinces' worth of people as jerks based on a single experience? Because that would be a pretty awful thing for them to do, yeah. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 15 child comments replies: [–] wholookshere@piefed.blahaj.zone 3 points 10 months ago (6 children) buddy I grew up in Alberta. and there's 2 things to sum up the people. During mask mandates I was in the Carstairs post office, and saw a woman with no mask picking up 2 boxes labeled cristianbooks.com the second is everyone in Alberta thinks being compared to Texas is a compliment. these are two light hearted examples, with many more in the memory bank. there's jerks everyone. My worst bit of transphobia was in Toronto. But Alberta does seem to have the highest concentration of jerks. at least as far as my experience has gone. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 6 child comments replies: [–] FaceDeer@fedia.io 1 point 10 months ago (5 children) During mask mandates I was in the Carstairs post office, Carstairs is a rural town with a population of 4900. the second is everyone in Alberta thinks being compared to Texas is a compliment. Oh, everyone? I happen to be Albertan and the notion of being compared to Texas fills me with anger. I'd like you to back that up with some kind of poll or statistic, please. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 5 child comments replies: [–] wholookshere@piefed.blahaj.zone 2 points 10 months ago* (2 children) if your taking things that literally on the internet, I can't help you. but what I can say is I didnt know anyone who understood it's an insult was until I moved out of Alberta. So everyone I met while growing up, yeah. for the record I grew up in Calgary. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] FaceDeer@fedia.io -1 points 10 months ago (1 child) OP is being warned to "stay away" specifically from Alberta because we're apparently not safe to be around, how am I supposed to be taking this? So far the only solid reasons that have been given are: Alberta produces a lot of oil. Someone in a small town post office didn't wear a mask while picking up a box of books related to Christianity, which I might add is far more widely practised in Canada's eastern provinces. Apparently "everyone" in Alberta thinks being compared to Texas is a compliment. Based on the fact that you personally didn't know anyone who thought otherwise, in your particular social bubble. So yeah, I'm rather offended. I think OP would have a perfectly fine time coming to visit Alberta. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] wholookshere@piefed.blahaj.zone 1 point 10 months ago* why are you taking it personally that were talking about you specifically? I know many great Albertians. But they're a slim minority. The people, as a whole, are not as good to interact with if your a person if color. this is coming from friends who are. we're not saying you specifically are an ass, but that a lot more people are asses in Alberta than most other places in Canada. I gave you a few light hearted examples. how about the person who crashed into my friends cart for wearing a mask in a store and said "don't rob me". how about all the terrible things said about natives out there? how about the police running moonlight walks? or the anti abortion ads that used to be on trucks and on the university campus showing graphic photos? there's more than you there. permalink fedilink source parent [–] GrindingGears@lemmy.ca 1 point 10 months ago (1 child) On the anger about Albertans being painted as lunatics and compared to Texas, I mean come on, you don't need stats or polls to see how that is. Not when the press focuses in, rightfully, on our premier who has both a pick-me complex, and insists on (loudly) representing the most grossest, fringest interests, which are wildly xenophobic, authoritarian, science denying, treasonist and corrupt in it's wildest extremes. Which is baffling when you consider that it's a pretty small number of our overall population that actually is represented by this nonsense. That only have power because of our distorted ways that we vote for representation, and weird ass governments that completely rug pull and stand for mandates they refuse to acknowledge at election time, because their wackadoodle party keeps getting hijacked and controlled by these fringe unelected people. So don't be confused or have shocked Pikachu face or anything when people outside (or inside) the province paint us with these brushes. It's deserved, because we keep allowing it to happen. We keep allowing these people to abuse us and control the narrative about who we are. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] FaceDeer@fedia.io 1 point 10 months ago Oh yes, I know why people have picked up a distorted and prejudiced view of Albertans. Should I go "oh, okay then, carry on believing that and propagating the stereotype?" It's true that we've got a terrible premier. It is not true that it's "unsafe" for tourists to visit. It's not true that "everyone in Alberta thinks being compared to Texas is a compliment." And so I will call those falsehoods out when they're propagated. permalink fedilink source parent [–] Sunshine@lemmy.ca 2 points 10 months ago (7 children) I mean look at what the government is doing and how most albertans support them. They have the largest emissions per capita in North America. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 7 child comments replies: [–] FaceDeer@fedia.io 0 points 10 months ago (6 children) what the government is doing Which is? how most albertans support them. Let's hear those specifics, I think you'll find that the population's not as supportive of whatever you're imagining they're supporting. And in particular the large cities, which are NDP strongholds. They have the largest emissions per capita in North America. This is why you think a tourist wouldn't be safe here? Because we're an oil-producing province? Better advise OP not to visit Norway either, they must be monsters over there. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 6 child comments replies: [–] Sunshine@lemmy.ca 1 point 10 months ago (5 children) Better advise OP not to visit Norway either, they must be monsters over there. The cops don’t carry guns there and the population is more accepting of other people groups. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 5 child comments replies: [–] FaceDeer@fedia.io 0 points 10 months ago (4 children) But their emissions! permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] Sunshine@lemmy.ca 1 point 10 months ago (3 children) Norway has the highest market share of evs at 96% so they're cleaning up the mess. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 3 child comments replies: [–] FaceDeer@fedia.io 1 point 10 months ago (2 children) And yet they produce 2 million barrels of oil per day. Must be a bunch of jerks. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Sunshine@lemmy.ca 1 point 10 months ago (1 child) Their emissions are still lower than that of Alberta and the wealth is shared with the everyday people ie the oil fund. Though they should reinvest into renewables and heat pumps more. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] FaceDeer@fedia.io 0 points 10 months ago And for that reason OP isn't "safe" when they visit Alberta, but would be "safe" if they visited Norway? I still have yet to figure out what this connection between the oil industry and personal safety is. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] Sunshine@lemmy.ca 4 points 10 months ago (17 children) The majority are though. I didn't feel safe when I last went there. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 17 child comments replies: [–] altasshet@lemmy.ca 2 points 10 months ago* I'm not gonna pretend everything is fine and dandy here. Not an Alberta native, and a lot of things still shock me even after 3 years here (how dominant religion is in some segments of the population, all the fucking trucks everywhere all the time, people keep on voting conservative despite, well, everything they're actually doing...). But I don't think it's as big of a majority as one would think. FPTP politics will distort reality and make the place look more conservative than it really is. All that to say - I get the negative image, and the reality on the ground will vary based on where you are and who you meet. Hopefully we can get the place into a state where people feel safe coming here. permalink fedilink source parent [–] FaceDeer@fedia.io 1 point 10 months ago (15 children) Do they dismiss entire provinces' worth of people as jerks based on a single experience? Because that would be a pretty awful thing for them to do, yeah. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 15 child comments replies: [–] wholookshere@piefed.blahaj.zone 3 points 10 months ago (6 children) buddy I grew up in Alberta. and there's 2 things to sum up the people. During mask mandates I was in the Carstairs post office, and saw a woman with no mask picking up 2 boxes labeled cristianbooks.com the second is everyone in Alberta thinks being compared to Texas is a compliment. these are two light hearted examples, with many more in the memory bank. there's jerks everyone. My worst bit of transphobia was in Toronto. But Alberta does seem to have the highest concentration of jerks. at least as far as my experience has gone. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 6 child comments replies: [–] FaceDeer@fedia.io 1 point 10 months ago (5 children) During mask mandates I was in the Carstairs post office, Carstairs is a rural town with a population of 4900. the second is everyone in Alberta thinks being compared to Texas is a compliment. Oh, everyone? I happen to be Albertan and the notion of being compared to Texas fills me with anger. I'd like you to back that up with some kind of poll or statistic, please. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 5 child comments replies: [–] wholookshere@piefed.blahaj.zone 2 points 10 months ago* (2 children) if your taking things that literally on the internet, I can't help you. but what I can say is I didnt know anyone who understood it's an insult was until I moved out of Alberta. So everyone I met while growing up, yeah. for the record I grew up in Calgary. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] FaceDeer@fedia.io -1 points 10 months ago (1 child) OP is being warned to "stay away" specifically from Alberta because we're apparently not safe to be around, how am I supposed to be taking this? So far the only solid reasons that have been given are: Alberta produces a lot of oil. Someone in a small town post office didn't wear a mask while picking up a box of books related to Christianity, which I might add is far more widely practised in Canada's eastern provinces. Apparently "everyone" in Alberta thinks being compared to Texas is a compliment. Based on the fact that you personally didn't know anyone who thought otherwise, in your particular social bubble. So yeah, I'm rather offended. I think OP would have a perfectly fine time coming to visit Alberta. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] wholookshere@piefed.blahaj.zone 1 point 10 months ago* why are you taking it personally that were talking about you specifically? I know many great Albertians. But they're a slim minority. The people, as a whole, are not as good to interact with if your a person if color. this is coming from friends who are. we're not saying you specifically are an ass, but that a lot more people are asses in Alberta than most other places in Canada. I gave you a few light hearted examples. how about the person who crashed into my friends cart for wearing a mask in a store and said "don't rob me". how about all the terrible things said about natives out there? how about the police running moonlight walks? or the anti abortion ads that used to be on trucks and on the university campus showing graphic photos? there's more than you there. permalink fedilink source parent [–] GrindingGears@lemmy.ca 1 point 10 months ago (1 child) On the anger about Albertans being painted as lunatics and compared to Texas, I mean come on, you don't need stats or polls to see how that is. Not when the press focuses in, rightfully, on our premier who has both a pick-me complex, and insists on (loudly) representing the most grossest, fringest interests, which are wildly xenophobic, authoritarian, science denying, treasonist and corrupt in it's wildest extremes. Which is baffling when you consider that it's a pretty small number of our overall population that actually is represented by this nonsense. That only have power because of our distorted ways that we vote for representation, and weird ass governments that completely rug pull and stand for mandates they refuse to acknowledge at election time, because their wackadoodle party keeps getting hijacked and controlled by these fringe unelected people. So don't be confused or have shocked Pikachu face or anything when people outside (or inside) the province paint us with these brushes. It's deserved, because we keep allowing it to happen. We keep allowing these people to abuse us and control the narrative about who we are. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] FaceDeer@fedia.io 1 point 10 months ago Oh yes, I know why people have picked up a distorted and prejudiced view of Albertans. Should I go "oh, okay then, carry on believing that and propagating the stereotype?" It's true that we've got a terrible premier. It is not true that it's "unsafe" for tourists to visit. It's not true that "everyone in Alberta thinks being compared to Texas is a compliment." And so I will call those falsehoods out when they're propagated. permalink fedilink source parent [–] Sunshine@lemmy.ca 2 points 10 months ago (7 children) I mean look at what the government is doing and how most albertans support them. They have the largest emissions per capita in North America. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 7 child comments replies: [–] FaceDeer@fedia.io 0 points 10 months ago (6 children) what the government is doing Which is? how most albertans support them. Let's hear those specifics, I think you'll find that the population's not as supportive of whatever you're imagining they're supporting. And in particular the large cities, which are NDP strongholds. They have the largest emissions per capita in North America. This is why you think a tourist wouldn't be safe here? Because we're an oil-producing province? Better advise OP not to visit Norway either, they must be monsters over there. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 6 child comments replies: [–] Sunshine@lemmy.ca 1 point 10 months ago (5 children) Better advise OP not to visit Norway either, they must be monsters over there. The cops don’t carry guns there and the population is more accepting of other people groups. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 5 child comments replies: [–] FaceDeer@fedia.io 0 points 10 months ago (4 children) But their emissions! permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] Sunshine@lemmy.ca 1 point 10 months ago (3 children) Norway has the highest market share of evs at 96% so they're cleaning up the mess. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 3 child comments replies: [–] FaceDeer@fedia.io 1 point 10 months ago (2 children) And yet they produce 2 million barrels of oil per day. Must be a bunch of jerks. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Sunshine@lemmy.ca 1 point 10 months ago (1 child) Their emissions are still lower than that of Alberta and the wealth is shared with the everyday people ie the oil fund. Though they should reinvest into renewables and heat pumps more. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] FaceDeer@fedia.io 0 points 10 months ago And for that reason OP isn't "safe" when they visit Alberta, but would be "safe" if they visited Norway? I still have yet to figure out what this connection between the oil industry and personal safety is. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] altasshet@lemmy.ca 2 points 10 months ago* I'm not gonna pretend everything is fine and dandy here. Not an Alberta native, and a lot of things still shock me even after 3 years here (how dominant religion is in some segments of the population, all the fucking trucks everywhere all the time, people keep on voting conservative despite, well, everything they're actually doing...). But I don't think it's as big of a majority as one would think. FPTP politics will distort reality and make the place look more conservative than it really is. All that to say - I get the negative image, and the reality on the ground will vary based on where you are and who you meet. Hopefully we can get the place into a state where people feel safe coming here. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] FaceDeer@fedia.io 1 point 10 months ago (15 children) Do they dismiss entire provinces' worth of people as jerks based on a single experience? Because that would be a pretty awful thing for them to do, yeah. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 15 child comments replies: [–] wholookshere@piefed.blahaj.zone 3 points 10 months ago (6 children) buddy I grew up in Alberta. and there's 2 things to sum up the people. During mask mandates I was in the Carstairs post office, and saw a woman with no mask picking up 2 boxes labeled cristianbooks.com the second is everyone in Alberta thinks being compared to Texas is a compliment. these are two light hearted examples, with many more in the memory bank. there's jerks everyone. My worst bit of transphobia was in Toronto. But Alberta does seem to have the highest concentration of jerks. at least as far as my experience has gone. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 6 child comments replies: [–] FaceDeer@fedia.io 1 point 10 months ago (5 children) During mask mandates I was in the Carstairs post office, Carstairs is a rural town with a population of 4900. the second is everyone in Alberta thinks being compared to Texas is a compliment. Oh, everyone? I happen to be Albertan and the notion of being compared to Texas fills me with anger. I'd like you to back that up with some kind of poll or statistic, please. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 5 child comments replies: [–] wholookshere@piefed.blahaj.zone 2 points 10 months ago* (2 children) if your taking things that literally on the internet, I can't help you. but what I can say is I didnt know anyone who understood it's an insult was until I moved out of Alberta. So everyone I met while growing up, yeah. for the record I grew up in Calgary. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] FaceDeer@fedia.io -1 points 10 months ago (1 child) OP is being warned to "stay away" specifically from Alberta because we're apparently not safe to be around, how am I supposed to be taking this? So far the only solid reasons that have been given are: Alberta produces a lot of oil. Someone in a small town post office didn't wear a mask while picking up a box of books related to Christianity, which I might add is far more widely practised in Canada's eastern provinces. Apparently "everyone" in Alberta thinks being compared to Texas is a compliment. Based on the fact that you personally didn't know anyone who thought otherwise, in your particular social bubble. So yeah, I'm rather offended. I think OP would have a perfectly fine time coming to visit Alberta. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] wholookshere@piefed.blahaj.zone 1 point 10 months ago* why are you taking it personally that were talking about you specifically? I know many great Albertians. But they're a slim minority. The people, as a whole, are not as good to interact with if your a person if color. this is coming from friends who are. we're not saying you specifically are an ass, but that a lot more people are asses in Alberta than most other places in Canada. I gave you a few light hearted examples. how about the person who crashed into my friends cart for wearing a mask in a store and said "don't rob me". how about all the terrible things said about natives out there? how about the police running moonlight walks? or the anti abortion ads that used to be on trucks and on the university campus showing graphic photos? there's more than you there. permalink fedilink source parent [–] GrindingGears@lemmy.ca 1 point 10 months ago (1 child) On the anger about Albertans being painted as lunatics and compared to Texas, I mean come on, you don't need stats or polls to see how that is. Not when the press focuses in, rightfully, on our premier who has both a pick-me complex, and insists on (loudly) representing the most grossest, fringest interests, which are wildly xenophobic, authoritarian, science denying, treasonist and corrupt in it's wildest extremes. Which is baffling when you consider that it's a pretty small number of our overall population that actually is represented by this nonsense. That only have power because of our distorted ways that we vote for representation, and weird ass governments that completely rug pull and stand for mandates they refuse to acknowledge at election time, because their wackadoodle party keeps getting hijacked and controlled by these fringe unelected people. So don't be confused or have shocked Pikachu face or anything when people outside (or inside) the province paint us with these brushes. It's deserved, because we keep allowing it to happen. We keep allowing these people to abuse us and control the narrative about who we are. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] FaceDeer@fedia.io 1 point 10 months ago Oh yes, I know why people have picked up a distorted and prejudiced view of Albertans. Should I go "oh, okay then, carry on believing that and propagating the stereotype?" It's true that we've got a terrible premier. It is not true that it's "unsafe" for tourists to visit. It's not true that "everyone in Alberta thinks being compared to Texas is a compliment." And so I will call those falsehoods out when they're propagated. permalink fedilink source parent [–] Sunshine@lemmy.ca 2 points 10 months ago (7 children) I mean look at what the government is doing and how most albertans support them. They have the largest emissions per capita in North America. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 7 child comments replies: [–] FaceDeer@fedia.io 0 points 10 months ago (6 children) what the government is doing Which is? how most albertans support them. Let's hear those specifics, I think you'll find that the population's not as supportive of whatever you're imagining they're supporting. And in particular the large cities, which are NDP strongholds. They have the largest emissions per capita in North America. This is why you think a tourist wouldn't be safe here? Because we're an oil-producing province? Better advise OP not to visit Norway either, they must be monsters over there. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 6 child comments replies: [–] Sunshine@lemmy.ca 1 point 10 months ago (5 children) Better advise OP not to visit Norway either, they must be monsters over there. The cops don’t carry guns there and the population is more accepting of other people groups. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 5 child comments replies: [–] FaceDeer@fedia.io 0 points 10 months ago (4 children) But their emissions! permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] Sunshine@lemmy.ca 1 point 10 months ago (3 children) Norway has the highest market share of evs at 96% so they're cleaning up the mess. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 3 child comments replies: [–] FaceDeer@fedia.io 1 point 10 months ago (2 children) And yet they produce 2 million barrels of oil per day. Must be a bunch of jerks. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Sunshine@lemmy.ca 1 point 10 months ago (1 child) Their emissions are still lower than that of Alberta and the wealth is shared with the everyday people ie the oil fund. Though they should reinvest into renewables and heat pumps more. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] FaceDeer@fedia.io 0 points 10 months ago And for that reason OP isn't "safe" when they visit Alberta, but would be "safe" if they visited Norway? I still have yet to figure out what this connection between the oil industry and personal safety is. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] wholookshere@piefed.blahaj.zone 3 points 10 months ago (6 children) buddy I grew up in Alberta. and there's 2 things to sum up the people. During mask mandates I was in the Carstairs post office, and saw a woman with no mask picking up 2 boxes labeled cristianbooks.com the second is everyone in Alberta thinks being compared to Texas is a compliment. these are two light hearted examples, with many more in the memory bank. there's jerks everyone. My worst bit of transphobia was in Toronto. But Alberta does seem to have the highest concentration of jerks. at least as far as my experience has gone. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 6 child comments replies: [–] FaceDeer@fedia.io 1 point 10 months ago (5 children) During mask mandates I was in the Carstairs post office, Carstairs is a rural town with a population of 4900. the second is everyone in Alberta thinks being compared to Texas is a compliment. Oh, everyone? I happen to be Albertan and the notion of being compared to Texas fills me with anger. I'd like you to back that up with some kind of poll or statistic, please. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 5 child comments replies: [–] wholookshere@piefed.blahaj.zone 2 points 10 months ago* (2 children) if your taking things that literally on the internet, I can't help you. but what I can say is I didnt know anyone who understood it's an insult was until I moved out of Alberta. So everyone I met while growing up, yeah. for the record I grew up in Calgary. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] FaceDeer@fedia.io -1 points 10 months ago (1 child) OP is being warned to "stay away" specifically from Alberta because we're apparently not safe to be around, how am I supposed to be taking this? So far the only solid reasons that have been given are: Alberta produces a lot of oil. Someone in a small town post office didn't wear a mask while picking up a box of books related to Christianity, which I might add is far more widely practised in Canada's eastern provinces. Apparently "everyone" in Alberta thinks being compared to Texas is a compliment. Based on the fact that you personally didn't know anyone who thought otherwise, in your particular social bubble. So yeah, I'm rather offended. I think OP would have a perfectly fine time coming to visit Alberta. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] wholookshere@piefed.blahaj.zone 1 point 10 months ago* why are you taking it personally that were talking about you specifically? I know many great Albertians. But they're a slim minority. The people, as a whole, are not as good to interact with if your a person if color. this is coming from friends who are. we're not saying you specifically are an ass, but that a lot more people are asses in Alberta than most other places in Canada. I gave you a few light hearted examples. how about the person who crashed into my friends cart for wearing a mask in a store and said "don't rob me". how about all the terrible things said about natives out there? how about the police running moonlight walks? or the anti abortion ads that used to be on trucks and on the university campus showing graphic photos? there's more than you there. permalink fedilink source parent [–] GrindingGears@lemmy.ca 1 point 10 months ago (1 child) On the anger about Albertans being painted as lunatics and compared to Texas, I mean come on, you don't need stats or polls to see how that is. Not when the press focuses in, rightfully, on our premier who has both a pick-me complex, and insists on (loudly) representing the most grossest, fringest interests, which are wildly xenophobic, authoritarian, science denying, treasonist and corrupt in it's wildest extremes. Which is baffling when you consider that it's a pretty small number of our overall population that actually is represented by this nonsense. That only have power because of our distorted ways that we vote for representation, and weird ass governments that completely rug pull and stand for mandates they refuse to acknowledge at election time, because their wackadoodle party keeps getting hijacked and controlled by these fringe unelected people. So don't be confused or have shocked Pikachu face or anything when people outside (or inside) the province paint us with these brushes. It's deserved, because we keep allowing it to happen. We keep allowing these people to abuse us and control the narrative about who we are. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] FaceDeer@fedia.io 1 point 10 months ago Oh yes, I know why people have picked up a distorted and prejudiced view of Albertans. Should I go "oh, okay then, carry on believing that and propagating the stereotype?" It's true that we've got a terrible premier. It is not true that it's "unsafe" for tourists to visit. It's not true that "everyone in Alberta thinks being compared to Texas is a compliment." And so I will call those falsehoods out when they're propagated. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] FaceDeer@fedia.io 1 point 10 months ago (5 children) During mask mandates I was in the Carstairs post office, Carstairs is a rural town with a population of 4900. the second is everyone in Alberta thinks being compared to Texas is a compliment. Oh, everyone? I happen to be Albertan and the notion of being compared to Texas fills me with anger. I'd like you to back that up with some kind of poll or statistic, please. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 5 child comments replies: [–] wholookshere@piefed.blahaj.zone 2 points 10 months ago* (2 children) if your taking things that literally on the internet, I can't help you. but what I can say is I didnt know anyone who understood it's an insult was until I moved out of Alberta. So everyone I met while growing up, yeah. for the record I grew up in Calgary. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] FaceDeer@fedia.io -1 points 10 months ago (1 child) OP is being warned to "stay away" specifically from Alberta because we're apparently not safe to be around, how am I supposed to be taking this? So far the only solid reasons that have been given are: Alberta produces a lot of oil. Someone in a small town post office didn't wear a mask while picking up a box of books related to Christianity, which I might add is far more widely practised in Canada's eastern provinces. Apparently "everyone" in Alberta thinks being compared to Texas is a compliment. Based on the fact that you personally didn't know anyone who thought otherwise, in your particular social bubble. So yeah, I'm rather offended. I think OP would have a perfectly fine time coming to visit Alberta. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] wholookshere@piefed.blahaj.zone 1 point 10 months ago* why are you taking it personally that were talking about you specifically? I know many great Albertians. But they're a slim minority. The people, as a whole, are not as good to interact with if your a person if color. this is coming from friends who are. we're not saying you specifically are an ass, but that a lot more people are asses in Alberta than most other places in Canada. I gave you a few light hearted examples. how about the person who crashed into my friends cart for wearing a mask in a store and said "don't rob me". how about all the terrible things said about natives out there? how about the police running moonlight walks? or the anti abortion ads that used to be on trucks and on the university campus showing graphic photos? there's more than you there. permalink fedilink source parent [–] GrindingGears@lemmy.ca 1 point 10 months ago (1 child) On the anger about Albertans being painted as lunatics and compared to Texas, I mean come on, you don't need stats or polls to see how that is. Not when the press focuses in, rightfully, on our premier who has both a pick-me complex, and insists on (loudly) representing the most grossest, fringest interests, which are wildly xenophobic, authoritarian, science denying, treasonist and corrupt in it's wildest extremes. Which is baffling when you consider that it's a pretty small number of our overall population that actually is represented by this nonsense. That only have power because of our distorted ways that we vote for representation, and weird ass governments that completely rug pull and stand for mandates they refuse to acknowledge at election time, because their wackadoodle party keeps getting hijacked and controlled by these fringe unelected people. So don't be confused or have shocked Pikachu face or anything when people outside (or inside) the province paint us with these brushes. It's deserved, because we keep allowing it to happen. We keep allowing these people to abuse us and control the narrative about who we are. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] FaceDeer@fedia.io 1 point 10 months ago Oh yes, I know why people have picked up a distorted and prejudiced view of Albertans. Should I go "oh, okay then, carry on believing that and propagating the stereotype?" It's true that we've got a terrible premier. It is not true that it's "unsafe" for tourists to visit. It's not true that "everyone in Alberta thinks being compared to Texas is a compliment." And so I will call those falsehoods out when they're propagated. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] wholookshere@piefed.blahaj.zone 2 points 10 months ago* (2 children) if your taking things that literally on the internet, I can't help you. but what I can say is I didnt know anyone who understood it's an insult was until I moved out of Alberta. So everyone I met while growing up, yeah. for the record I grew up in Calgary. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] FaceDeer@fedia.io -1 points 10 months ago (1 child) OP is being warned to "stay away" specifically from Alberta because we're apparently not safe to be around, how am I supposed to be taking this? So far the only solid reasons that have been given are: Alberta produces a lot of oil. Someone in a small town post office didn't wear a mask while picking up a box of books related to Christianity, which I might add is far more widely practised in Canada's eastern provinces. Apparently "everyone" in Alberta thinks being compared to Texas is a compliment. Based on the fact that you personally didn't know anyone who thought otherwise, in your particular social bubble. So yeah, I'm rather offended. I think OP would have a perfectly fine time coming to visit Alberta. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] wholookshere@piefed.blahaj.zone 1 point 10 months ago* why are you taking it personally that were talking about you specifically? I know many great Albertians. But they're a slim minority. The people, as a whole, are not as good to interact with if your a person if color. this is coming from friends who are. we're not saying you specifically are an ass, but that a lot more people are asses in Alberta than most other places in Canada. I gave you a few light hearted examples. how about the person who crashed into my friends cart for wearing a mask in a store and said "don't rob me". how about all the terrible things said about natives out there? how about the police running moonlight walks? or the anti abortion ads that used to be on trucks and on the university campus showing graphic photos? there's more than you there. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] FaceDeer@fedia.io -1 points 10 months ago (1 child) OP is being warned to "stay away" specifically from Alberta because we're apparently not safe to be around, how am I supposed to be taking this? So far the only solid reasons that have been given are: Alberta produces a lot of oil. Someone in a small town post office didn't wear a mask while picking up a box of books related to Christianity, which I might add is far more widely practised in Canada's eastern provinces. Apparently "everyone" in Alberta thinks being compared to Texas is a compliment. Based on the fact that you personally didn't know anyone who thought otherwise, in your particular social bubble. So yeah, I'm rather offended. I think OP would have a perfectly fine time coming to visit Alberta. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] wholookshere@piefed.blahaj.zone 1 point 10 months ago* why are you taking it personally that were talking about you specifically? I know many great Albertians. But they're a slim minority. The people, as a whole, are not as good to interact with if your a person if color. this is coming from friends who are. we're not saying you specifically are an ass, but that a lot more people are asses in Alberta than most other places in Canada. I gave you a few light hearted examples. how about the person who crashed into my friends cart for wearing a mask in a store and said "don't rob me". how about all the terrible things said about natives out there? how about the police running moonlight walks? or the anti abortion ads that used to be on trucks and on the university campus showing graphic photos? there's more than you there. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] wholookshere@piefed.blahaj.zone 1 point 10 months ago* why are you taking it personally that were talking about you specifically? I know many great Albertians. But they're a slim minority. The people, as a whole, are not as good to interact with if your a person if color. this is coming from friends who are. we're not saying you specifically are an ass, but that a lot more people are asses in Alberta than most other places in Canada. I gave you a few light hearted examples. how about the person who crashed into my friends cart for wearing a mask in a store and said "don't rob me". how about all the terrible things said about natives out there? how about the police running moonlight walks? or the anti abortion ads that used to be on trucks and on the university campus showing graphic photos? there's more than you there. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] GrindingGears@lemmy.ca 1 point 10 months ago (1 child) On the anger about Albertans being painted as lunatics and compared to Texas, I mean come on, you don't need stats or polls to see how that is. Not when the press focuses in, rightfully, on our premier who has both a pick-me complex, and insists on (loudly) representing the most grossest, fringest interests, which are wildly xenophobic, authoritarian, science denying, treasonist and corrupt in it's wildest extremes. Which is baffling when you consider that it's a pretty small number of our overall population that actually is represented by this nonsense. That only have power because of our distorted ways that we vote for representation, and weird ass governments that completely rug pull and stand for mandates they refuse to acknowledge at election time, because their wackadoodle party keeps getting hijacked and controlled by these fringe unelected people. So don't be confused or have shocked Pikachu face or anything when people outside (or inside) the province paint us with these brushes. It's deserved, because we keep allowing it to happen. We keep allowing these people to abuse us and control the narrative about who we are. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] FaceDeer@fedia.io 1 point 10 months ago Oh yes, I know why people have picked up a distorted and prejudiced view of Albertans. Should I go "oh, okay then, carry on believing that and propagating the stereotype?" It's true that we've got a terrible premier. It is not true that it's "unsafe" for tourists to visit. It's not true that "everyone in Alberta thinks being compared to Texas is a compliment." And so I will call those falsehoods out when they're propagated. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] FaceDeer@fedia.io 1 point 10 months ago Oh yes, I know why people have picked up a distorted and prejudiced view of Albertans. Should I go "oh, okay then, carry on believing that and propagating the stereotype?" It's true that we've got a terrible premier. It is not true that it's "unsafe" for tourists to visit. It's not true that "everyone in Alberta thinks being compared to Texas is a compliment." And so I will call those falsehoods out when they're propagated. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] Sunshine@lemmy.ca 2 points 10 months ago (7 children) I mean look at what the government is doing and how most albertans support them. They have the largest emissions per capita in North America. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 7 child comments replies: [–] FaceDeer@fedia.io 0 points 10 months ago (6 children) what the government is doing Which is? how most albertans support them. Let's hear those specifics, I think you'll find that the population's not as supportive of whatever you're imagining they're supporting. And in particular the large cities, which are NDP strongholds. They have the largest emissions per capita in North America. This is why you think a tourist wouldn't be safe here? Because we're an oil-producing province? Better advise OP not to visit Norway either, they must be monsters over there. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 6 child comments replies: [–] Sunshine@lemmy.ca 1 point 10 months ago (5 children) Better advise OP not to visit Norway either, they must be monsters over there. The cops don’t carry guns there and the population is more accepting of other people groups. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 5 child comments replies: [–] FaceDeer@fedia.io 0 points 10 months ago (4 children) But their emissions! permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] Sunshine@lemmy.ca 1 point 10 months ago (3 children) Norway has the highest market share of evs at 96% so they're cleaning up the mess. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 3 child comments replies: [–] FaceDeer@fedia.io 1 point 10 months ago (2 children) And yet they produce 2 million barrels of oil per day. Must be a bunch of jerks. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Sunshine@lemmy.ca 1 point 10 months ago (1 child) Their emissions are still lower than that of Alberta and the wealth is shared with the everyday people ie the oil fund. Though they should reinvest into renewables and heat pumps more. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] FaceDeer@fedia.io 0 points 10 months ago And for that reason OP isn't "safe" when they visit Alberta, but would be "safe" if they visited Norway? I still have yet to figure out what this connection between the oil industry and personal safety is. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] FaceDeer@fedia.io 0 points 10 months ago (6 children) what the government is doing Which is? how most albertans support them. Let's hear those specifics, I think you'll find that the population's not as supportive of whatever you're imagining they're supporting. And in particular the large cities, which are NDP strongholds. They have the largest emissions per capita in North America. This is why you think a tourist wouldn't be safe here? Because we're an oil-producing province? Better advise OP not to visit Norway either, they must be monsters over there. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 6 child comments replies: [–] Sunshine@lemmy.ca 1 point 10 months ago (5 children) Better advise OP not to visit Norway either, they must be monsters over there. The cops don’t carry guns there and the population is more accepting of other people groups. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 5 child comments replies: [–] FaceDeer@fedia.io 0 points 10 months ago (4 children) But their emissions! permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] Sunshine@lemmy.ca 1 point 10 months ago (3 children) Norway has the highest market share of evs at 96% so they're cleaning up the mess. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 3 child comments replies: [–] FaceDeer@fedia.io 1 point 10 months ago (2 children) And yet they produce 2 million barrels of oil per day. Must be a bunch of jerks. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Sunshine@lemmy.ca 1 point 10 months ago (1 child) Their emissions are still lower than that of Alberta and the wealth is shared with the everyday people ie the oil fund. Though they should reinvest into renewables and heat pumps more. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] FaceDeer@fedia.io 0 points 10 months ago And for that reason OP isn't "safe" when they visit Alberta, but would be "safe" if they visited Norway? I still have yet to figure out what this connection between the oil industry and personal safety is. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] Sunshine@lemmy.ca 1 point 10 months ago (5 children) Better advise OP not to visit Norway either, they must be monsters over there. The cops don’t carry guns there and the population is more accepting of other people groups. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 5 child comments replies: [–] FaceDeer@fedia.io 0 points 10 months ago (4 children) But their emissions! permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] Sunshine@lemmy.ca 1 point 10 months ago (3 children) Norway has the highest market share of evs at 96% so they're cleaning up the mess. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 3 child comments replies: [–] FaceDeer@fedia.io 1 point 10 months ago (2 children) And yet they produce 2 million barrels of oil per day. Must be a bunch of jerks. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Sunshine@lemmy.ca 1 point 10 months ago (1 child) Their emissions are still lower than that of Alberta and the wealth is shared with the everyday people ie the oil fund. Though they should reinvest into renewables and heat pumps more. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] FaceDeer@fedia.io 0 points 10 months ago And for that reason OP isn't "safe" when they visit Alberta, but would be "safe" if they visited Norway? I still have yet to figure out what this connection between the oil industry and personal safety is. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] FaceDeer@fedia.io 0 points 10 months ago (4 children) But their emissions! permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] Sunshine@lemmy.ca 1 point 10 months ago (3 children) Norway has the highest market share of evs at 96% so they're cleaning up the mess. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 3 child comments replies: [–] FaceDeer@fedia.io 1 point 10 months ago (2 children) And yet they produce 2 million barrels of oil per day. Must be a bunch of jerks. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Sunshine@lemmy.ca 1 point 10 months ago (1 child) Their emissions are still lower than that of Alberta and the wealth is shared with the everyday people ie the oil fund. Though they should reinvest into renewables and heat pumps more. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] FaceDeer@fedia.io 0 points 10 months ago And for that reason OP isn't "safe" when they visit Alberta, but would be "safe" if they visited Norway? I still have yet to figure out what this connection between the oil industry and personal safety is. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] Sunshine@lemmy.ca 1 point 10 months ago (3 children) Norway has the highest market share of evs at 96% so they're cleaning up the mess. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 3 child comments replies: [–] FaceDeer@fedia.io 1 point 10 months ago (2 children) And yet they produce 2 million barrels of oil per day. Must be a bunch of jerks. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Sunshine@lemmy.ca 1 point 10 months ago (1 child) Their emissions are still lower than that of Alberta and the wealth is shared with the everyday people ie the oil fund. Though they should reinvest into renewables and heat pumps more. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] FaceDeer@fedia.io 0 points 10 months ago And for that reason OP isn't "safe" when they visit Alberta, but would be "safe" if they visited Norway? I still have yet to figure out what this connection between the oil industry and personal safety is. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] FaceDeer@fedia.io 1 point 10 months ago (2 children) And yet they produce 2 million barrels of oil per day. Must be a bunch of jerks. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Sunshine@lemmy.ca 1 point 10 months ago (1 child) Their emissions are still lower than that of Alberta and the wealth is shared with the everyday people ie the oil fund. Though they should reinvest into renewables and heat pumps more. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] FaceDeer@fedia.io 0 points 10 months ago And for that reason OP isn't "safe" when they visit Alberta, but would be "safe" if they visited Norway? I still have yet to figure out what this connection between the oil industry and personal safety is. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] Sunshine@lemmy.ca 1 point 10 months ago (1 child) Their emissions are still lower than that of Alberta and the wealth is shared with the everyday people ie the oil fund. Though they should reinvest into renewables and heat pumps more. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] FaceDeer@fedia.io 0 points 10 months ago And for that reason OP isn't "safe" when they visit Alberta, but would be "safe" if they visited Norway? I still have yet to figure out what this connection between the oil industry and personal safety is. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] FaceDeer@fedia.io 0 points 10 months ago And for that reason OP isn't "safe" when they visit Alberta, but would be "safe" if they visited Norway? I still have yet to figure out what this connection between the oil industry and personal safety is. permalink fedilink source parent