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“I Almost D!ed After Being Denied Medical Care”: Conservative Christian Trump Voter Shocked to Learn Fetal Heartbeat Bill Applies to Her Too (talklikea.pro)
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DES MOINES, IA — Jessica Djukanovic, a conservative wrestling coach, mother of four, and loyal voter for the “Traditional Values and Strict Legislation Party,” is reportedly “shocked and appalled” to discover that the very laws she helped implement are currently treating her life as a secondary concern to a non-viable fetus.

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[–] 3 points 9 months ago (4 children)

They are not conservatives. They call themselves that not knowing or understanding what the word means. They are regressives. They are some of the least personally conservative people in most respects. Especially in the material and monetary sense. They always want the best clothes and devices. The newest cars. They are a sham people and if they didn't do so much harm I could pity them. They are pitiful but in no way deserve pity.

The old in group thing is not just conservatives. That old thing is in play all over the world with a wide variety of names. Its Communism in the CCP. its Zionism in Palestine/israel. Its many other things in many places. It is in no way just a thing in the US. The one thing they have in common is there is some 'magical' word that shields them from their hypocrisy. Its the morally weak pretending they are morally superior while doing horrible things.

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  • [–] 9 points 9 months ago* (3 children)

    The Conservative movement wasn’t started to conserve money. It was started in Europe around the French Revolution as a way to conserve the power of the ruling class.

    Around that time, the ruling class had a bit of an existential crisis; they had always believed that bloodline was what determined who was part of the In Group and who wasn’t. But during the French Revolution they started to think that perhaps bloodline wasn’t the way to judge who was Deserving of being in their little In-Group clique, or at least it might not be the only component of who should have access to it.

    So they settled on money as their new main determining factor. It’s also why they (or those aspiring to the class) always want the best, shiniest new clothes and devices; it showcases their wealth and thus their eligibility for joining the In Group.

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  • [–] -1 points 9 months ago (2 children)

    You can't seem to separate what they call themselves from what they are. They stole the word conservative which I consider myself a genuine conservative. Part of being a real conservative is not judging or involving yourselves in others lives. If they don't impact my life I care not what others do. Its taking changes slowly and in this world that is watching expenditures carefully. Its a lot of things. None of these are things what the majority calling themselves conservative today are.

    You need to back up to the french revolution? Keep going. You can go back to the building of the pyramids and see the same thing. But I'm not talking about ancient Egypt much less the french revolution that quickly became just as In group as what they replaced. Just to be clear, fuck the french. I'm talking about the US today and don't need to muddy the waters.

    The magats are not conservative today. They just call themselves that. They are regressive. You are just playing their game insisting on making this morass about in groups and other useless comparisons. You are a useful tool for them. Like I said the scam you describe is ongoing all over the world right now. Has been for nearly all of human existence. Its seems that you can't get past that. You keep talking about in groups like its some revelation when its just the way societies have always worked. If they were instantly gone today some new system just like it would spring up. Hell they might call themselves conservative but probably they would call themselves woke and would become just as corrupt quicker than you think.

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  • [–] 2 points 9 months ago (1 child)

    Yes, there have always been people trying to create the in-group out-group dynamic, I never said there wasn’t. But in the past the in-group was determined solely by bloodline. Allowing anyone in as long as they have enough cash is a fairly recent development.

    I’m going back to the French Revolution because that’s where the modern movement started. It was crafted largely by Prince Kelmens von Metternich of Vienna as a response to the rising tide of proletariat revolutions and movements towards demanding more commoner’s representation in government.

    I hate to say it, but you’re the one who’s been taken in by the bullshit they spout to make themselves appear legitimate. All that stuff they say about saving money and taking things slow is a smokescreen. You’ll notice none of the leaders of conservative movements have ever paid more than lip service to those ideals.

    But because they want an in-group and an out-group, the conservative movement attracts regressives and other assholes who want to get special treatment without doing anything to deserve it, I agree. It’s useful for conservatives; it means that those people help support their push for power in the hopes they can be allowed into the ‘in-group’.

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  • [–] 2 points 9 months ago

    What you do though is steal their words back. Just look how offended they get about rainbows now. I've quit calling them conservatives. Let them call themselves what they want. Let call them what they are. Stupid racist bigoted fascist regressives. But not conservatives or christians.

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