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[–] queermunist@lemmy.ml 0 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago) (1 children)

Central planners in the Soviet Union didn't even have computers and they lacked the level of scientific understanding we have today of the environment, of our resources, and of the limits to growth. We've all heard about Mao killing the sparrows in China.

This isn't a reason to never try central planning again.

[–] RowRowRowYourBot@sh.itjust.works 0 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

They absolutely had computers, I have no idea why you would think the second largest economy that produced tremendous technological advances in its time did not have computers.You know Tetris was created by a Soviet programmer, right?

Planned economies are doomed at this point gecause we aren't able to predict distasters and the planned economy cannot respond in an efficient manner when things go wrong. Humans aren't smart enough and we do not have artificial intelligence capable of doing so.

[–] queermunist@lemmy.ml 0 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago) (1 children)

They had computers towards the end, of course, but they were extremely primitive. The kinds of disaster predictions you can do on a machine built to run Tetris are nothing compared to what can be done with today's technology.

Also, it's not like markets can actually deal with disasters. Without at least some central planning disaster response and relief is impossible.

[–] RowRowRowYourBot@sh.itjust.works 0 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

Planning for relief disaster and a planned economy are incredibly different things. Planned economies do not handle disasters well at all as they didn't prepare for that disaster in advance (typically because how can you plan for the one in a hundred million chance that x would happen).

We largely have stuck with market based economies because they currently are much more responsive to changes.

While computers have gotten more powerful there is zero evidence to support that we have gotten to the point where they could run a planned economy in any fashion.

[–] queermunist@lemmy.ml -1 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago) (1 children)

We largely have stuck with market based economies because they currently are much more responsive to changes.

No, we still have market based economies because they make a few people very very rich.

We needed markets before computers and instant mass communication. Things are different now

While computers have gotten more powerful there is zero evidence to support that we have gotten to the point where they could run a planned economy in any fashion.

What about the fact that market-based responses to COVID were universally worse than centrally planned responses?

[–] RowRowRowYourBot@sh.itjust.works 0 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

Given what you have said in the last comment I replied to I do not wish to continue this conversation

[–] queermunist@lemmy.ml 0 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago) (1 children)

You called me poorly educated. Was I supposed to be nice after that?

[–] RowRowRowYourBot@sh.itjust.works 0 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

If you don’t understand that microeconomics and macroeconomics are not the same, and you have clearly stated this when you say companies and nation-states function under the same rules, then there isn’t a point in having a further discussion with you because you aren’t coming from an informed position.

Im stopping not because if your tone but rather because you have made it clear you don’t really know anything about economics.

[–] queermunist@lemmy.ml -1 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago) (1 children)

Whatever you say Dunning-Kruger

[–] RowRowRowYourBot@sh.itjust.works 0 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

You’re even getting that wrong

[–] queermunist@lemmy.ml -1 points 2 weeks ago

Eat my shorts.