▲ 73 ▼ I tried, and failed. (europe.pub) submitted 9 months ago by UltraGiGaGigantic@lemmy.ml to c/shitposting@lemmy.ml 24 comments fedilink hide all child comments
[–] HiddenLayer555@lemmy.ml 9 points 9 months ago (11 children) Quit porn, don't quit masturbation. Porn is the source of all the problems, masturbation is relatively healthy. permalink fedilink source hideshow 11 child comments replies: [–] Enzy@feddit.nu 5 points 9 months ago (1 child) Wank without material just isn't the same. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] Agent641@lemmy.world 4 points 9 months ago Like eating from an empty plate or swimming in a pool with no water. permalink fedilink source parent [–] anotherspinelessdem@lemmy.ml 3 points 9 months ago (8 children) The issues with porn are the exploitation and lack of ethics in its production, but this can be resolved by ethical written/animated porn. But yes, masturbation is perfectly healthy. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 8 child comments replies: [–] comfy@lemmy.ml 8 points 9 months ago but this can be resolved by ethical written/animated porn But animated porn puts both the masturbator AND the artist at risk of wrist injury! permalink fedilink source parent [–] yum@lemmy.eco.br 3 points 9 months ago (4 children) Doesn't it also do funky stuff to your brain? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] comfy@lemmy.ml 6 points 9 months ago (3 children) Any specific things? I've seen a lot of broscience floats around about porn's effects, especially around chemicals like dopamine, so it's worth checking further before believing any of it. That isn't to say lots of the claims aren't plausable, but they also might not be reliable. I'm no expert, but some other concerns I've heard are that porn normalizes unrealistic expectations of sex and promotes misinformation (imagine how someone who only learned from porn might handle issues like consent, preparation and aftercare). I could see those continuing to be an issue with written, rendered and generated porn. But IMO those would still be a huge improvement over the abuse of participants associated with the porn film industry. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 3 child comments replies: [–] dditty@lemmy.dbzer0.com 2 points 9 months ago* (2 children) Yes to everything you said and also I've known guys who goon to so much porn it ends up making it difficult for them to get hard or cum from sex because it isn't as stimulating permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] ChairmanMeow@programming.dev 4 points 9 months ago (1 child) But is any of that irreversible? If you fuck twice a day it probably gets difficult after a while too. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] anotherspinelessdem@lemmy.ml 2 points 9 months ago I think it's a short term thing. As long as a guy doesn't have heart issues (most common physiological cause of ED), then just going a few days without porn, or having more exciting sex, either will resolve the issue. permalink fedilink source parent [–] Twongo@lemmy.ml -1 points 9 months ago* (1 child) the issue is porn rewires your brain and sooner or later after enough consumption you can only derive pleasure from looking at a screen. it doesn't matter whether it's "ethically sourced" - while that is a step forward we still face porn addiction at large and don't educate on this matter. it leads to the spread of misogyny, wrong expectations and erectyle dysfunction among men. i'm probably just biased but as a single western woman i can tell ya that some men have severe "coomerbrain" and don't know how to approach women. masturbation is fine and healthy tho :3 use your imagination :3 permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] anotherspinelessdem@lemmy.ml 7 points 9 months ago the issue is porn rewires your brain and sooner or later after enough consumption you can only derive pleasure from looking at a screen. it doesn't matter whether it's "ethically sourced" - while that is a step forward we still face porn addiction at large and don't educate on this matter. it leads to the spread of misogyny, wrong expectations and erectyle dysfunction among men. I hate to be that person but... source? I've tried to find reliable medical sources about "porn addiction" before but have never been successful. As far as misogyny goes, many organized religions are responsible for plenty of that already, and corporate social media only gave that an environment to further propogate. Ethical sourcing would lead to healthier material as well. As for erectile dysfunction, that sounds like something men could overcome if they're motivated to put down the porn for a few days, and might lower the SA rates too. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] Enzy@feddit.nu 5 points 9 months ago (1 child) Wank without material just isn't the same. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] Agent641@lemmy.world 4 points 9 months ago Like eating from an empty plate or swimming in a pool with no water. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] Agent641@lemmy.world 4 points 9 months ago Like eating from an empty plate or swimming in a pool with no water. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] anotherspinelessdem@lemmy.ml 3 points 9 months ago (8 children) The issues with porn are the exploitation and lack of ethics in its production, but this can be resolved by ethical written/animated porn. But yes, masturbation is perfectly healthy. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 8 child comments replies: [–] comfy@lemmy.ml 8 points 9 months ago but this can be resolved by ethical written/animated porn But animated porn puts both the masturbator AND the artist at risk of wrist injury! permalink fedilink source parent [–] yum@lemmy.eco.br 3 points 9 months ago (4 children) Doesn't it also do funky stuff to your brain? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] comfy@lemmy.ml 6 points 9 months ago (3 children) Any specific things? I've seen a lot of broscience floats around about porn's effects, especially around chemicals like dopamine, so it's worth checking further before believing any of it. That isn't to say lots of the claims aren't plausable, but they also might not be reliable. I'm no expert, but some other concerns I've heard are that porn normalizes unrealistic expectations of sex and promotes misinformation (imagine how someone who only learned from porn might handle issues like consent, preparation and aftercare). I could see those continuing to be an issue with written, rendered and generated porn. But IMO those would still be a huge improvement over the abuse of participants associated with the porn film industry. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 3 child comments replies: [–] dditty@lemmy.dbzer0.com 2 points 9 months ago* (2 children) Yes to everything you said and also I've known guys who goon to so much porn it ends up making it difficult for them to get hard or cum from sex because it isn't as stimulating permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] ChairmanMeow@programming.dev 4 points 9 months ago (1 child) But is any of that irreversible? If you fuck twice a day it probably gets difficult after a while too. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] anotherspinelessdem@lemmy.ml 2 points 9 months ago I think it's a short term thing. As long as a guy doesn't have heart issues (most common physiological cause of ED), then just going a few days without porn, or having more exciting sex, either will resolve the issue. permalink fedilink source parent [–] Twongo@lemmy.ml -1 points 9 months ago* (1 child) the issue is porn rewires your brain and sooner or later after enough consumption you can only derive pleasure from looking at a screen. it doesn't matter whether it's "ethically sourced" - while that is a step forward we still face porn addiction at large and don't educate on this matter. it leads to the spread of misogyny, wrong expectations and erectyle dysfunction among men. i'm probably just biased but as a single western woman i can tell ya that some men have severe "coomerbrain" and don't know how to approach women. masturbation is fine and healthy tho :3 use your imagination :3 permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] anotherspinelessdem@lemmy.ml 7 points 9 months ago the issue is porn rewires your brain and sooner or later after enough consumption you can only derive pleasure from looking at a screen. it doesn't matter whether it's "ethically sourced" - while that is a step forward we still face porn addiction at large and don't educate on this matter. it leads to the spread of misogyny, wrong expectations and erectyle dysfunction among men. I hate to be that person but... source? I've tried to find reliable medical sources about "porn addiction" before but have never been successful. As far as misogyny goes, many organized religions are responsible for plenty of that already, and corporate social media only gave that an environment to further propogate. Ethical sourcing would lead to healthier material as well. As for erectile dysfunction, that sounds like something men could overcome if they're motivated to put down the porn for a few days, and might lower the SA rates too. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] comfy@lemmy.ml 8 points 9 months ago but this can be resolved by ethical written/animated porn But animated porn puts both the masturbator AND the artist at risk of wrist injury! permalink fedilink source parent
[–] yum@lemmy.eco.br 3 points 9 months ago (4 children) Doesn't it also do funky stuff to your brain? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] comfy@lemmy.ml 6 points 9 months ago (3 children) Any specific things? I've seen a lot of broscience floats around about porn's effects, especially around chemicals like dopamine, so it's worth checking further before believing any of it. That isn't to say lots of the claims aren't plausable, but they also might not be reliable. I'm no expert, but some other concerns I've heard are that porn normalizes unrealistic expectations of sex and promotes misinformation (imagine how someone who only learned from porn might handle issues like consent, preparation and aftercare). I could see those continuing to be an issue with written, rendered and generated porn. But IMO those would still be a huge improvement over the abuse of participants associated with the porn film industry. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 3 child comments replies: [–] dditty@lemmy.dbzer0.com 2 points 9 months ago* (2 children) Yes to everything you said and also I've known guys who goon to so much porn it ends up making it difficult for them to get hard or cum from sex because it isn't as stimulating permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] ChairmanMeow@programming.dev 4 points 9 months ago (1 child) But is any of that irreversible? If you fuck twice a day it probably gets difficult after a while too. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] anotherspinelessdem@lemmy.ml 2 points 9 months ago I think it's a short term thing. As long as a guy doesn't have heart issues (most common physiological cause of ED), then just going a few days without porn, or having more exciting sex, either will resolve the issue. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] comfy@lemmy.ml 6 points 9 months ago (3 children) Any specific things? I've seen a lot of broscience floats around about porn's effects, especially around chemicals like dopamine, so it's worth checking further before believing any of it. That isn't to say lots of the claims aren't plausable, but they also might not be reliable. I'm no expert, but some other concerns I've heard are that porn normalizes unrealistic expectations of sex and promotes misinformation (imagine how someone who only learned from porn might handle issues like consent, preparation and aftercare). I could see those continuing to be an issue with written, rendered and generated porn. But IMO those would still be a huge improvement over the abuse of participants associated with the porn film industry. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 3 child comments replies: [–] dditty@lemmy.dbzer0.com 2 points 9 months ago* (2 children) Yes to everything you said and also I've known guys who goon to so much porn it ends up making it difficult for them to get hard or cum from sex because it isn't as stimulating permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] ChairmanMeow@programming.dev 4 points 9 months ago (1 child) But is any of that irreversible? If you fuck twice a day it probably gets difficult after a while too. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] anotherspinelessdem@lemmy.ml 2 points 9 months ago I think it's a short term thing. As long as a guy doesn't have heart issues (most common physiological cause of ED), then just going a few days without porn, or having more exciting sex, either will resolve the issue. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] dditty@lemmy.dbzer0.com 2 points 9 months ago* (2 children) Yes to everything you said and also I've known guys who goon to so much porn it ends up making it difficult for them to get hard or cum from sex because it isn't as stimulating permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] ChairmanMeow@programming.dev 4 points 9 months ago (1 child) But is any of that irreversible? If you fuck twice a day it probably gets difficult after a while too. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] anotherspinelessdem@lemmy.ml 2 points 9 months ago I think it's a short term thing. As long as a guy doesn't have heart issues (most common physiological cause of ED), then just going a few days without porn, or having more exciting sex, either will resolve the issue. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] ChairmanMeow@programming.dev 4 points 9 months ago (1 child) But is any of that irreversible? If you fuck twice a day it probably gets difficult after a while too. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] anotherspinelessdem@lemmy.ml 2 points 9 months ago I think it's a short term thing. As long as a guy doesn't have heart issues (most common physiological cause of ED), then just going a few days without porn, or having more exciting sex, either will resolve the issue. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] anotherspinelessdem@lemmy.ml 2 points 9 months ago I think it's a short term thing. As long as a guy doesn't have heart issues (most common physiological cause of ED), then just going a few days without porn, or having more exciting sex, either will resolve the issue. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] Twongo@lemmy.ml -1 points 9 months ago* (1 child) the issue is porn rewires your brain and sooner or later after enough consumption you can only derive pleasure from looking at a screen. it doesn't matter whether it's "ethically sourced" - while that is a step forward we still face porn addiction at large and don't educate on this matter. it leads to the spread of misogyny, wrong expectations and erectyle dysfunction among men. i'm probably just biased but as a single western woman i can tell ya that some men have severe "coomerbrain" and don't know how to approach women. masturbation is fine and healthy tho :3 use your imagination :3 permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] anotherspinelessdem@lemmy.ml 7 points 9 months ago the issue is porn rewires your brain and sooner or later after enough consumption you can only derive pleasure from looking at a screen. it doesn't matter whether it's "ethically sourced" - while that is a step forward we still face porn addiction at large and don't educate on this matter. it leads to the spread of misogyny, wrong expectations and erectyle dysfunction among men. I hate to be that person but... source? I've tried to find reliable medical sources about "porn addiction" before but have never been successful. As far as misogyny goes, many organized religions are responsible for plenty of that already, and corporate social media only gave that an environment to further propogate. Ethical sourcing would lead to healthier material as well. As for erectile dysfunction, that sounds like something men could overcome if they're motivated to put down the porn for a few days, and might lower the SA rates too. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] anotherspinelessdem@lemmy.ml 7 points 9 months ago the issue is porn rewires your brain and sooner or later after enough consumption you can only derive pleasure from looking at a screen. it doesn't matter whether it's "ethically sourced" - while that is a step forward we still face porn addiction at large and don't educate on this matter. it leads to the spread of misogyny, wrong expectations and erectyle dysfunction among men. I hate to be that person but... source? I've tried to find reliable medical sources about "porn addiction" before but have never been successful. As far as misogyny goes, many organized religions are responsible for plenty of that already, and corporate social media only gave that an environment to further propogate. Ethical sourcing would lead to healthier material as well. As for erectile dysfunction, that sounds like something men could overcome if they're motivated to put down the porn for a few days, and might lower the SA rates too. permalink fedilink source parent