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Yup.
Other nations came to our aid, and sacrificed soldiers, for the U.S. after 9/11.
And now American conservatives are mocking and threatening those allies after what they did for us.
It's sickening.
I say conservatives, not Americans, because I don't consider conservatives to be Americans anymore. They don't align with American values. They don't respect our Constitution. And they certainly don't respect our allies.
Have you read Mein Kampf? Do you know who inspired the Nuremburg laws? I dont want to burst your bubble but you need to know this: THE USA HAS BEEN FASCIST FOR A VERY, VERY LONG TIME. Look into history and you will see it to be true.
You should. They've got the dark rot of Americanism running through their veins worse than any of us.
Lets not pretend Iraq and Afghanistan had anything to do with 9/11.
ALL conservatives are MAGA now, and ALL MAGAs are corrupt, traitors, racists, rapists, misogynists, ignorant, incompetent, and PEDOPHILES. It's a permanent, indelible stain that will follow each one of them individually, FOREVER.
Sounds like billionaire owned corporate media has successfully poisoned you to hate a large chunk of your fellow working class men and women. Bummer. It’s more likely than not that the neoliberal capitalists will completely crush the American working class, it’s guaranteed if we can’t find a way to work together.
We don't hate working class Americans, just class traitors who are simping for Psychopathic Oligarchs who want to literally enslave us. There is no reason to respect an ignorant intolerant who has gone all in on destroying Democracy, just because it feeds their feral hatred.
They made their choice, and they should suffer the consequences, as an example to those morons in the future who are too weak to resist propaganda and political manipulation.
Who exactly are the class traitors you’re referring to? Working class Americans who: Voted Republican? Voted for trump specifically? Hold conservative values? Didn’t vote at all in the last election? Your statement paints such broad strokes. I see rhetoric just like this in almost every political thread. It’s such an oversimplification that assumes that one party is controlled by these psychopathic oligarchs who hold such immense power, but apparently not enough to effectively control both parties. Why do you think the candidate or party you support isn’t controlled by these same oligarchs? Isn’t it becoming painfully obvious that we’ve been living in a failing state where the working class has no effective representation? It would be just as easy for someone from the other party to think that about you, and that’s the point, rhetoric like this only has one purpose: create division amongst the working class.
Was the choice not voting for your preferred candidate/party or is it more nuanced than that? Personally I think working class people are suffering enough but it sounds like you’d like to see more suffering. That makes it really hard to create the type of class unity the working class will require to try and reset the power imbalance we’re fighting for against the neoliberal capitalists.
I am the first to agree that the real battle is between the 1% and everyone else, but when it comes to MAGA, economic class has nothing to do with it. If you are MAGA, you are a traitor, a racist, and a pedophile, among other things, and you are irredeemable. There is no forgiveness for you, no mercy.
We cannot have the economic class war that we need, if MAGAs are among us, sabotaging our efforts. We need to clear the decks of the traitors and pedophiles, then go after the Sociopathic Oligarchs. Legally if possible, but that's up to them.
I’m trying my best to read your response in good faith and reply in kind. I also believe the MAGA movement and the types that gravitate towards it are in the moral wrong but I can’t go so far as to write off the humanity or class solidarity for individuals who made a wrong choice. The working class is at such a disadvantage. Working class voters who had disinformation influence their vote don’t deserve to be written off so broadly. The 18 year old who got funneled into a MAGA pipeline on Youtube or an 80 year old engaging with disinformation from Facebook and Fox News shouldn’t all be written off as class trading racist pedos. Those kind of broad statements only create and reinforce division.
I’m trying to find common ground with you but your statements are very divisive. Instead of trying to root out every working class person who doesn’t align with your view before trying to tackle the imbalance between neoliberal capitalists and the working class why not instead focus on building a coalition of like minded people to tackle the issue directly? We have the numbers to create the change we want to see. Let’s build the moral high ground together united around improving conditions for all the working class. Let our efforts be the change that helps working class people affected by disinformation realize their mistake and join us so we can collectively fight the neoliberals and find some balance before it’s too late.
I don't expect people to align with my opinions, at all, but I will not forgive evil. If you have embraced MAGA, then you have embraced evil, and I have no tolerance for evil, or those who willingly, enthusiastically wallow in it.
MAGA is in power because of the pathetic attitude of Democratic weaklings who are OBSSESSED with being POLITE to traitors and pedophiles. It was worth a try at the beginning, but it has clearly not worked AT ALL, and it's naive to keep insisting that continuing to appease these stupid apes is going to finally have some impact on their behavior. You're right, it will, it will make them behave even worse, which is exactly what has happened over the last decade, especially during the shameful Biden administration.
Now they are killing innocent American citizens who have the nerve to actually exercise their First Amendment Rights. They are literally MURDERING us, and they are only going to get worse, and your response is to continue to be even more polite, because surely it will work this time.
They are killing us now, understand? It's time to stop being nice. Appeasement has NEVER worked with these pyschopaths. We need to make them fear us, in every way possible, political and otherwise.
I really hope the anger you feel toward everything doesn’t also destroy your humanity. There is a big difference between being polite to someone and dehumanizing them. These broad statements of hate you continue to make toward large groups of working class people is disappointing to hear but I know nothing I can say will change your mind. It’s a cruel world we’re living through, take care.
They are objectively, demonstrably traitors, racists, misogynists, xenophobes, bigots, corrupt, pedophiles, and there numerous documented examples of every one of those things. These labels aren't hyperbole or political rhetoric, they are FACTS. While you are offended that I'm actually voicing those characteristics, they are actually proud of all of them.
There comes a time when the best thing you can do for your fellow humans is stand up for them, defend them, and protect them. When your adversary is cut from the same template as countless horrors from the not even so distant past, and are openly repeating history, the responsible thing to do is to resist, as strongly as required.
History has proven over and over that appeasement NEVER works. Recognize this NATIONAL SECURITY THREAT for what it is.
It's great that you've figured out that wealth inequality is the problem, but this doesn't make enemies into friends.
Many on the right are too far gone, and I say this as a Canadian, where the sickness hasn't fully spread yet.