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Ring Cameras Join Flock and Amazon to Now Create Direct Data Access for ICE (europe.pub)
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https://hrnews1.substack.com/p/ring-cameras-join-flock-and-amazon?r=1t17zr

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[–] 35 points 8 months ago (10 children)

Ring is owned by Amazon, so it makes sense. You can't really trust any company fully, but Anker and Reolink are OK for now

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  • [–] 35 points 8 months ago* (4 children)

    Reolink

    Any cameras that can operate entirely offline are good. Dahua and Hikvision are good too. Look for cameras with RTSP and ONVIF support. ONVIF is a standardized API for interacting with cameras and can handle things like pan/tilt/zoom, sending events from the camera to the NVR (eg motion detection), and a bunch of other things.

    I use Blue Iris as my NVR, which is usually regarded as the best, but there's other good software too (like Frigate), and hardware solutions too.

    Just follow best practices - keep them isolated on a separate VLAN with no internet access. If you want remote access to your NVR, use a VPN like Tailscale.

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  • [–] 2 points 8 months ago (1 child)

    Though, on the other hand, having the video saved offsite is useful because then anyone with physical access to your home can't get rid of the video showing they're there.

    This is not an argument in favour of using cloud services, because that gives access to your video to anyone the company deems should have access (or sometimes individual workers who either have access as part of their job or gain access because businesses suck at security). It's in response to you saying isolate the cameras from the internet entirely; there is a good reason to have them connected (though you could have a PC handle that with a connection to two networks and no physical or software bridge between the two, just take video from one, upload (encrypted) to server on other).

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  • [–] 5 points 8 months ago*

    Though, on the other hand, having the video saved offsite is useful because then anyone with physical access to your home can’t get rid of the video showing they’re there.

    I have Blue Iris configured to send all alert videos to one of my storage VPSes via SFTP. As soon as someone is detected outside, the video clip is sent offsite.

    The server and the PoE switch that powers the cameras are also on a UPS, which helps if the intruder tries to shut off the power at the main breaker (which, here in California, always needs to be located outside).

    It’s in response to you saying isolate the cameras from the internet entirely

    The cameras themselves should always be isolated. No internet access for the cameras at all. Your NVR can have network access, and is what would handle uploading the videos to internet storage somewhere.

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  • [–] 18 points 8 months ago (2 children)

    Anker owns Eufy right? The company that had all their cameras recording to a publicly accessible cloud storage?

    Yeah not trusting them either.

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  • [–] 2 points 8 months ago (1 child)

    My eufys are supposed to be local only. Shit I hope so... That's why I bought them in the first place

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  • [–] 1 point 8 months ago

    Uh oh, you need to look into that right away. Most of the camera brands we're talking about CAN be run local, by which we mean you can sever their internet connection with firewall rules and they'll still operate. You have to do that though. They'll almost all connect to the internet if allowed to.

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