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Federal agents briefly detained our reporter at the scene, who says he was tackled to the ground and had a gun put in his face.

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[–] 39 points 8 months ago (53 children)

You don't have to watch the videos.

You're going to watch a man getting killed. That's not good for your mental health. You can just take a pass here and not watch. Your watching the video is probably not going to help in any way, and it might hurt you. So, just think about your own needs before you traumatize yourself for no reason.

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  • [–] 18 points 8 months ago (2 children)

    No, we NEED to be traumatized by this. We need to feel the visceral outrage that it takes to absolutely demand justice, OR ELSE! and mean it.

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  • [–] 15 points 8 months ago (5 children)

    Everyone should watch the video. Ignorance is not, in fact, bliss. That man was murdered by our government because he dared to protect his fellow citizens. No one can appreciate how egregious that killing was until they see it in living color.

    Hiding from the truth because the truth is hard, is no way to live. We should all know what it happening. It will effect us all sooner than we think.

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  • [–] 3 points 8 months ago (4 children)

    It's not ignorance to spare yourself the trauma of watching someone die. You can know what happened without having to watch it yourself.

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  • [–] 3 points 8 months ago (3 children)

    "I don't want, and shouldn't have, to do/see something difficult, because of the negative implications it may have on me personally." I think that logic is bunk.

    It is cover for avoiding the hard realities of life and the world around us. It is cover be being a coward. We should confront the difficult moments, not hide from them because they will make us feel complicated emotions that we will need to process. That attitude is exactly how we ended up here a country and it should be called out for what it is - fear and weakness. Now is not a time for either, unless we want this situation to get worse.

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  • [–] 2 points 8 months ago (2 children)

    You don't need to personally witness all the brutalities of life to stay informed. Do you watch all the Internet's child porn just to be aware it's out there, and to suffer the consequences of that? Or is it only violence porn that you think is essential viewing?

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  • [–] 1 point 8 months ago* (1 child)

    I mean in this case there is a benefit to seeing exactly what happened and how it happened to confidently shield yourself from propaganda. The video isn’t graphic per say (no blood or gore), and a single viewing instantly demolishes the fox news narrative

    Now like the charlie kirk video is senseless, and I 100% agree with you there, no point to viewing it if you don’t want to.

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  • [–] 1 point 8 months ago

    I mean in this case there is a benefit to seeing exactly what happened

    Why?

    to confidently shield yourself from propaganda

    Unless you were an idiot who actually believed the lies the Trump admin tells, your shield is already up and active. If the Trump admin said that the sky was blue, I'd assume it was night. That was true months ago, nothing they've done or said recently has changed it.

    There's no prize for being viewer number 1,000,000,000 of the death. You're not going to spot something that the previous 999,999,999 people all missed. You're not going to discover that the vast majority of those nearly 1 billion other viewers were lying and it was actually Trump telling the truth. All you're going to do is watch someone die, and discover that what everybody other than Trump toadies said is correct.

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  • [–] 12 points 8 months ago (15 children)

    It's a fair warning. But it also shows that there was no restraint. They murdered him. There was no struggle. He was just letting a woman go free. There was no threat on ICE. We all see it.

    But a fair warning for those who haven't seen something like that before.

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  • [–] 3 points 8 months ago (14 children)

    Yes, and I got that information from you, without having to watch the video myself.

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  • [–] 3 points 8 months ago (13 children)

    Correct. But I could be full of shit.

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  • [–] 1 point 8 months ago (12 children)

    It's also possible that you saw doctored footage. It's possible that you're mentally disturbed and don't realize it and that what you think you saw isn't actually what your eyes told you they were seeing. You could be a figment of my imagination. You could be an LLM bot. I could be an LLM bot. You could be trapped in the matrix.

    Lots of things are possible. Most things are improbable. You gain essentially nothing by watching a snuff film for yourself to agree with the millions of other people who have also all watched it and all agree that they saw what they saw.

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  • [–] 1 point 8 months ago (11 children)

    And unicorns might shit Lucky Charms. You only KNOW if you witness it yourself and form an opinion on your own.

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  • [–] 0 points 8 months ago (10 children)

    Yes, so don't rely on watching videos. The only way you know for sure is if you get shot yourself. Anybody claiming that you need to watch the video to truly understand what happened is deluded.

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  • [–] 1 point 8 months ago (9 children)

    Are you trying to be difficult? I wouldn't buy anything from you if you have this attitude.

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  • [–] 0 points 8 months ago (8 children)

    Good thing I'm not selling anything.

    Instead I'm making a point that people who say that hearing what happened isn't sufficient, but watching a video somehow is.

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  • [–] 1 point 8 months ago (7 children)

    I don't think you are making any sense anymore

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  • [–] 0 points 8 months ago (6 children)

    You're the one who suddenly started talking about buying things from me.

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  • [–] 1 point 8 months ago (5 children)

    Amazing that idioms are literal to you

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  • [–] 1 point 8 months ago (3 children)

    Listen we both know you aren't smart enough to know what that is

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  • [–] 0 points 8 months ago (2 children)

    You're not the sharpest tool in the shed, are you? You can't just invent your own phrase and declare it an idiom.

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  • [–] 9 points 8 months ago

    Interesting take on personal trauma. What's "good", "bad", or even "neutral" for mental health is very individualistic. A warning is warranted, but I'd be wary of telling people it's "not good" to watch it. Maybe not for you, but you are you're own person

    Plenty of adults here who can make that call themselves (proper warning is always welcomed/needed)

    Personally, I don't choose the route of burying my head in the sand so I can savor blissful ignorance. I watch people die regularly IRL and am comfortable with the notion... but what's wrong is wrong and sometimes people need to understand the reality. If they ain't up to it, than a proper NSFL warning is good enough to warn them

    People ain't all children, and I respect what you're trying to say... but if I got executed like that man; I'd want everyone (who was able) to see it for themselves. Especially in an age where false narratives and soft details are the norm

    I prefer to see the horror with my own eyes and make my own judgements. I've accidentally seen far too much as is, and it only gave me strength after healing

    A warning's good enough, no need to patronize

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  • [–] 3 points 8 months ago (1 child)

    I watched the video and yes it traumatized me. If you have personal trauma with situations that include police brutality and/or gun violence the video might retraumatize you. That having said, it's a reality. We cannot deny this is happening and you better face the ugly reality we live in. However: this wasn't the first incident and it won't be the last. Do yourself and your sensible soul a favor and don't watch all of this. A completely numbed down or traumatized countermovement doesn't serve anybody.

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  • [–] 2 points 8 months ago

    We cannot deny this is happening and you better face the ugly reality we live in

    There are more than 2 options. You don't have to either a) "watch the video(s)" or b) "hide from reality". There are also options like "don't watch the video but accept that the millions / billions of people who have watched it have described it accurately."

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  • [–] 3 points 8 months ago (1 child)

    Don't look away, thats what they want, its also a sleight to the life of this man to not bear witness.

    Watch, be enraged, then engage.

    It will hurt your metal health way more to not watch and keep pretending everything is ok.

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  • [–] 1 point 8 months ago

    Don't look directly into the trauma-causing footage. That's what they want. It's no slight to someone's life not to personally watch them die. What matters isn't that you personally watch their death from as many angles as you can. What matters is that you tell the truth about what happened. You can do that without obsessing over watching someone die. In fact, if you think that watching someone die is the important thing, you're dishonouring them by focusing on the wrong thing.

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