That veil was broken for me when he threw a tantrum and called a rescuer a pedophile because they wouldn't let him build and use an overly expensive and impractical mini-submarine to rescue some children from a flooded cave.

I mean no, Twitter was not profitable even before Shitstain Must bought it. I can't speak to how much deeper into the red he brought it, but it was not making money in the first place.

No, you were right. He used to be a very intelligent, ruthlessly effective asshole. He enabled some great things, and participated in them, and also had some flaws.

Through whatever combination of drugs, radicalization, mental illness... he's all flaw now.

Can confirm, am autistic and not Nazi.

I threw that in there because he apparently said that's what he's got at one point (I couldn't remember which). Plus, my family throws that out there anytime they're reminded that I don't like him, "because that's just how those people are."

I know autistic people aren't Nazis. Musk is a Nazi, whether or not he is autistic has no bearing on the rest of how I feel about him. I hate him, he fucking sucks.

He has stock, that if he tried to sell it all would collapse its value.

No. I see this claim made very often to downplay how obscenely wealth is concentrated, and it's one of the Big Lies that sound superficially plausible but just plain isn't true. There has never been a case of a stock "collapsing" solely from a stock holder trying to liquidate it with no other factors at play; at worst it's a few percent that regain themselves after a few days. Billionaires sell stocks all the time without a blip; Bezos for example has unloaded over $50,000,000,000 in AMZN, of which $13,000,000,000 was just in the last year, all without incident.

A lot of things contributed to the TSLA drop, and it was nothing like a "collapse" - it was in the middle of a record spike (meaning he was able to sell unusually high, hmm, nothing suspicious there) with the supposed "collapsed" value never dropping below what it had been less than 9 months previously. If anything the example you give proves that not only is he entirely capable of raising extremely large sums of money selling stock, he's also adept at pumping the stock just before he does to snatch even more than we thought he was worth.

But, even if we did accept that he "can't" sell his shares because it would collapse the company, that suggests something even worse about his wealth - that it's so obscenely high that even the combined wealth of the global stock market doesn't have enough money in it to offer him a fair valuation.

(edit: oh wait I just noticed how much Musk simping you do all over lemmy. GTFO)