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[–] Tattorack@lemmy.world 20 points 1 week ago (2 children)

Didn't Torvald's already chew people out for committing vibe-coded crap? At least I can rest assured the Linux Kernel doesn't have dysfunctional generated code in it.

[–] moseschrute@lemmy.world 18 points 1 week ago (2 children)

I think actually on the programming side, we’re in a fairly good spot. I really think that AI will be a tool and it will make people more productive. I think that vibe coding is great for getting into programming. I think it’s gonna be a horrible thing to maintain. So I don’t think programmers go away. You still want to have the people who know how to maintain the end result. I’m a huge believer in AI. I’m not a huge believer in the things going on around AI. I find the marketing and the market to be sick and twisted, and there is going to be a crash, and it’s gonna be ugly.

Linus Torvalds

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[–] Tattorack@lemmy.world 17 points 1 week ago (2 children)

Vibe-coding =/= actual coding. He chewed out someone for committing code that was simply churned out by an AI without checking if it's actually functional code.

Lemme try find his email...

[–] moseschrute@lemmy.world 11 points 1 week ago

100% agree, but does your average Lemmy user know the difference between vibe coding vs actual coding using some AI tool? Is vim being vibe coded or are the maintainers just using some AI tools?

[–] RogueJello@lemmy.world 2 points 1 week ago (1 children)

So.... typical Linus response to poor code. You'd don't really need a source, I've seen him go off on bad coders more than once, adding AI doesn't really change much.

[–] Tattorack@lemmy.world 2 points 1 week ago

I mean... He did say something along the lines of being incompetent for using AI. Or that incompetence made them use AI.

I think Linus sees some benefit in an AI tool catching problems in code you've written, but not as a crutch to vibe-code with.

[–] Blue_Morpho@lemmy.world 4 points 1 week ago (1 children)

He sort of did the opposite. He chewed people out for trying to put anti AI language into the docs. He said in effect, "We can't tell if AI was used so it's stupid to add anti AI requirements."

[–] lambalicious@lemmy.sdf.org -4 points 1 week ago (1 children)
[–] Blue_Morpho@lemmy.world 8 points 1 week ago (1 children)

He's the same but with less personal insults.

[–] lambalicious@lemmy.sdf.org -4 points 1 week ago (2 children)

That's like a raw kernel downgrade! I wonder if Vintage Torvalds would have allowed AI into the kernel (Linux is now in the Open Slopware list because of that).

[–] Blue_Morpho@lemmy.world 6 points 1 week ago

He's not requiring it or suggesting it. He is being pragmatic. If code passes human review, who submitted it doesn't matter.

Pragmatism has been his defining personality trait. It's why he has never cared if Linux is used for profit or military.

[–] qarbone@lemmy.world 3 points 1 week ago (1 children)

I can't tell if you're joking...

[–] lambalicious@lemmy.sdf.org 1 points 1 week ago

I'm not, unfortunately.