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Punish the Democrats, she says (europe.pub)
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[–] 37 points 6 months ago (35 children)

I hate that guy, but hate cannot make Me act against My own interests. Well it can a little bit, especially in fast moving situations. But it can't do it with big decisions like My vote.

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  • [–] 22 points 6 months ago (33 children)

    Yea, but from all his talks and bills I don't trust him to not be against queer people. So in a way they both will be against my own interests.

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  • [–] 27 points 6 months ago (1 child)

    He will be more against queer people than whoever the Republicans put forth? Really?

    If candidate A wants you to hide your queerness and use the wrong bathroom, and candidate B wants to force you to be straight or go to jail or a conversion camp, are you really going to throw your hands up in the air and say it's not worth voting?

    Voting for someone does not mean you support everything they stand for. It just means you think they are the best option of what has been laid before you.

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  • [–] 5 points 6 months ago

    Voting for someone does not mean you support everything they stand for.

    I've seen what centrists do when they don't get their very first choice. They campaigned against Mamdani and formed a PAC to get McCain elected.

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  • [–] 19 points 6 months ago

    My actions and his actions are two very different things. If he primaries, I may tell people to vote for him against the R, having told people to vote against him in the primaries. In both cases I would be acting in alignment with My interests, for they are two very different choices. I will hope for the best and plan for the worst.

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  • [–] 13 points 6 months ago* (17 children)

    "Option A is really, really bad for me. But I'm not sure if option B wouldn't be somewhat bad, too. So I will just watch and let option A happen."

    You, and millions of other propaganda victims helping fascists win

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  • [–] 7 points 6 months ago (16 children)

    I'm getting pretty tired of voting for the 'slightly less bad' blue fascists, though.

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  • [–] -5 points 6 months ago (15 children)

    No one’s arguing voting Dem is a magical cure-all. Your local Dem will not be 100% aligned with your worldview (unless it’s you in office).

    But 65% is more than -200%. A shit-ton of so-called “lefties” cannot do basic math.

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  • [–] 10 points 6 months ago (4 children)

    The 65% brings us further right so the Republicans can be more evil.

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  • [–] -1 points 6 months ago (3 children)

    Does it.

    No. Stop being wrong.

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  • [–] 0 points 1 month ago

    You first.

    Look at Newsom. Look at the fact that Democrats' takeaway from losing in 2024 was "we weren't transphobic enough". Look at Biden shouting "fund the police". Look at Democrats enthusiastically putting up Flock cameras.

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  • [–] -1 points 6 months ago (1 child)

    Yes they do! The Democrats' secret plan is to be so bad at galvanising support so we vote for the Rs, and then the Ds don't even have a lift a finger to destroy democracy. It's ingenious, really. If they actually tried to win elections, they'd win every time, and then the left wing radicals in the party would climb the ranks and push progressive policies. But by losing on purpose, they deflect suspicion and keep the radicals down.

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  • [–] 7 points 6 months ago* (8 children)

    But 65% is more than -200%.

    Nah, it's more like "-40% is more than -200%"

    Still headed toward fascism and abuse ... just a bit slower.

    We're in a car heading toward a cliff, and we have a choice of whether to hit the gas or the brakes. But the brakes are really shitty and can only slow us down slightly -- no way they'll stop in time.

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  • [–] -1 points 6 months ago (7 children)

    So instead we hit the gas or do nothing...really?

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  • [–] 2 points 6 months ago (5 children)

    Well, my plan is to jump out of the car (leave the country). But what you do is up to you.

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  • [–] -2 points 6 months ago (4 children)

    Imagine that. Shitting on everything and leaving. How leftist.

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  • [–] 5 points 6 months ago* (3 children)

    If you're a Jew in Germany in, say ... 1926, what's your best option for survival?

    Voting? lol

    Staying and fighting? Good on you, but your chances of surviving that are extremely slim.

    Staying and hiding? Somewhat better chances, but still pretty bad.

    Getting the fuck out of Germany and going far away? By far your best chance.

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  • [–] -5 points 6 months ago (2 children)

    You’re a Jew in Germany in 1926?

    Far out.

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  • [–] 9 points 6 months ago (1 child)

    Your courage to do anything will help in the long run.

    Please at least consider the option that helps some others.

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  • [–] 9 points 6 months ago

    It's not even that. EVERYONE is harmed by fascists. Or, if you'd like to rephrase it this way: EVERYONE is harmed much more by fascists. Either way, in the general, vote blue. In the primaries, vote for the best option. And if you can run for office, run for office.

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  • [–] -1 points 6 months ago (7 children)

    Single issue voting is how fascists win.

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  • [–] -1 points 6 months ago (6 children)

    Voting is how fascists win.

    This won't be fixed by voting. It never could have been and it never will be.

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  • [–] 2 points 6 months ago (4 children)

    Voting is how fascists win.

    I'm just quoting the stupidest thing I've read this week for posterity.

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  • [–] 3 points 6 months ago (2 children)

    Am I wrong?

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  • [–] -3 points 6 months ago (1 child)

    Well, I don't know here, let's fucking use a brain cell or two.

    Arguably, sure, facists win because people vote for them.

    And do you know how facists lose? PEOPLE VOTE FOR NOT-FASCISTS.

    So what you said was true and also the most useless fucking worthless statement I've read all week.

    After all, the entire fucking point here is STOP VOTING FOR FASCISTS.

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