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[–] [M] 182 points 6 months ago* (last edited 6 months ago) (13 children)

OP, per Rule 4, for accessibility reasons, an image of text must either have alt text or a transcript in the post body.


Edit: Counting this as a warning for future posts, OP, but since you might not be here to address this, a transcript in a comment as a lesser substitute:

Bushra Shaikh (@Bushra1Shaikh): How TF did Americans vote the clown in, not once but TWICE.

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This creator posted on Election Day 2024: "Punish the democrats for their passive response to the genocide in Palestine. If there ever was a party who should have stood firmly against it, we would've assumed the Dems. They proved otherwise. F Kamala Harris. Hope she loses.” [truncated URL to the post here]

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  • [–] 58 points 6 months ago (3 children)

    Thank you for having and enforcing this rule. It's appreciated!

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  • [–] 39 points 6 months ago* (last edited 6 months ago) (2 children)

    I know it's not a lot, but when I was doing some UI work on PCSX2, I tried the screen reader Orca on Linux to see what a blind person's experience interacting with the UI was like. It was unusable. There was practically nothing. (Apparently on macOS it was kind of okay, but not because of anything the PCSX2 application was doing correctly.) It was staggering how terrible the experience was; even the tab ordering through the UI elements wasn't enforced, so the element focus was like a game of connect-the-dots darting around the window. We weren't using any – even trivial – accessibility functionality in Qt. To this day, I think most of that still needs to be done, as I only managed with my minimal knowledge to fix some low-hanging fruit (which would hopefully have at least helped a little).

    What prompted me to try this? PS2 games are such a visual experience, after all. A fan replied to our Mastodon account saying that 1) he was totally blind from birth, 2) he loved playing PS2 games growing up, and 3) his favorite one was OutRun 2006 (yes, the high-speed racing game). This wasn't a gag; he was visibly blind and detailed his experience. This wasn't a one-off either; multiple users who note that they're totally blind in their bio have followed the account. It really humanized something I'd conceptualized generically as something you should do because it's a good thing to do. The most succinct way to put the lesson I was smacked in the face with was: "If you build it, they will come."

    That is, I know for sure that it's not just a formality when I enforce it.

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  • [–] 54 points 6 months ago* (last edited 6 months ago) (4 children)

    I apologize if I'm just being stupid about this, but I take this opportunity to ask: how do we add alt-text to an image on Lemmy? I always add it on Mastodon, but I've never figured out how to do it on Lemmy (I use the web interface, maybe it requires a special app?). I've seen that others have done it, and I see that it's a rule here for images of text, which is good. But HOW to do it?

    Thanks!

    Edit: Thanks everyone for the answers!

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  • [–] 40 points 6 months ago*

    I think it might be fractured as a feature on Lemmy, which is why putting it in the body is also allowed.

    On Voyager, once I upload an image, there's a little stick figure button that lets me "Add an accessible caption" (the alt text). On desktop, there's an "Alt Text" option that shows up once I've uploaded an image.

    Since I have no clue if all UIs do this or if users know where it is, body posts are fine if slightly less(?) useful for accessibility.

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  • [–] 179 points 6 months ago (358 children)

    I remember arguing for days, in 2024, that the whole "Democrats are bad because Palestine" thing was clearly a psyop by Russian bots trying to mess with the election. I really need to improve my persuasion skills. Like by a lot.

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  • [–] 178 points 6 months ago (188 children)

    Pretty sure Democrats doing nothing to stop the genocide in gaza was a factor to their detriment in the election, bots aside

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  • [–] 137 points 6 months ago (178 children)

    Even knowing that Trump was going to actively help Bibi? That's the thing I didn't understand: sure, the Democrats were not doing much to stop the slaughter, but from the previous Trump administration we knew Trump was going to actively help.

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  • [–] 94 points 6 months ago (85 children)

    Ok, but you see how massively demoralizing this conversation is, right?

    Making logical points weighing up two distinct yet similar stances on genocide is only going to suppress voter turnout.

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  • [–] 75 points 6 months ago* (53 children)

    It shouldn't. It's basic harm reduction.

    One side probably won't stop it, but they're on our side so there's a sliver of a cintilla of a chance we could pressure them into it.

    The other side absolutely would not, vocally stated he would help accelerate it, and would laugh in our faces and do even more to accelerate it for no other reason than it made us mad.

    The choice should have been obvious, even if I and everyone else would have preferred better options.

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  • [–] 54 points 6 months ago (24 children)

    See people aren't exclusively machines.

    I know people who felt that both sides at least tacitly supporting the genocide was so depressing that for their mental health they basically checked out of politics.

    No, that response isn't helpful, but it's a very real thing that happens to real people. They needed a candidate that cared that people's lives were ending across the sea, and neither side offered that.

    That hurt Kamala's chances in a very real way, and might even be the deciding factor for Trump's second term.

    While you and I can look at this and go "Wow, that's not logical, she's way better than Trump", the Democratic campaign should have had political scientists and psychologists that knew about this well-documented phenomenon. I imagine they did, and ignored it, because siding against Israel would've cost money.

    So while it's true that the choice was still objectively obvious, it's also completely true that the Democratic campaign absolutely mishandled it, because this isn't some new phenomenon, and group human psychology isn't unpredictable. It's also not the fault of those who didn't vote because of that.

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  • [–] 33 points 6 months ago* (5 children)

    While you and I can look at this and go “Wow, that’s not logical, she’s way better than Trump”, the Democratic campaign should have had political scientists and psychologists that knew about this well-documented phenomenon. I imagine they did, and ignored it, because siding against Israel would’ve cost money.

    D and R parties both need independent voters to win any election. For example, even if every D voted for a D, they would lose without independents voting for them in significant numbers. This has been a political fact for many years.

    So... why did the Harris campaign target REPUBLICAN voters (instead of Ds and independents)? They wasted a lot of vital time on that ("He doesn't need to know who you voted for" etc), and they knew that they would lose if they did so.

    She knew it too, Harris isn't stupid. She took a knee.

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  • [–] 30 points 6 months ago (7 children)

    We don't live in a world of "should", in the real world of course it is demoralizing and affects the vote turnout.

    We all know the US government will back Israel no matter what... and the voters can only punish the incumbent party for doing so.

    65% of Democrats don't want to finance Israel. Two thirds of their own party, that's massive!

    Voter turnout will continue to fall; D and R parties will continue to lose voters (now down to 30% registered voters each) and the Independents will continue to grow (now up to 40% of voters).

    Why? Because our major parties ignore what their constituents actually want, and we can only punish one party every term.

    It shouldn't be that way, but it is.

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  • [–] 22 points 6 months ago* (1 child)

    The very fact that the Trolley Problem exists as a thought experiment and there is still active discourse over the correct solution should tell you why people didn't all feel that they had a responsibility to vote for harm reduction. You can't expect an election that resembles a famously divisive philosophical thought experiment to turn out with everyone arriving at the same conclusion, and it's pointless to dwell on the fact that everyone didn't fall in line with what you think is obvious rather than adjusting to the reality and acting accordingly. That means getting candidates elected in primaries that aren't going to put us in the same trolley problem come time for the general.

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  • [–] 36 points 6 months ago

    What is more the "Democrat are bad because Palestine" was the opposition's framing. The argumeny was pretty unanimous that the policy on Palestine was going to cost the Democrats the election. The Democrats were bad because they knew full well they were going to choose to lose over changing that policy.

    And that's just tunnel visioning at only the Israeli policy.

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  • [–] 33 points 6 months ago

    Doing nothing to stop it, cheering on Universities and police that beat and punished protesters, refusing to let Ruwa Romman or anyone else anti-genocide speak at their convention, etc.

    Their policy was bad and they were assholes about it at every opportunity. It's honestly amazing she got as many votes as she did.

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    Both can be true. How TF we have 4 years to produce a candidate against trump, and the best we got was walking corpse Biden 2.0 and then Kamala "I'm speaking while your homeland is genocided" Harris.

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    [–] 60 points 6 months ago

    The English language has an nice expression for that: "cut off your nose to spite your face"

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  • [–] 54 points 6 months ago (80 children)

    I voted for her but if they put Gavin newsom, I don't know if I can care anymore.

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  • [–] 37 points 6 months ago (35 children)

    I hate that guy, but hate cannot make Me act against My own interests. Well it can a little bit, especially in fast moving situations. But it can't do it with big decisions like My vote.

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  • [–] 22 points 6 months ago (33 children)

    Yea, but from all his talks and bills I don't trust him to not be against queer people. So in a way they both will be against my own interests.

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  • [–] 27 points 6 months ago (1 child)

    He will be more against queer people than whoever the Republicans put forth? Really?

    If candidate A wants you to hide your queerness and use the wrong bathroom, and candidate B wants to force you to be straight or go to jail or a conversion camp, are you really going to throw your hands up in the air and say it's not worth voting?

    Voting for someone does not mean you support everything they stand for. It just means you think they are the best option of what has been laid before you.

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    [–] 34 points 6 months ago (20 children)

    This was all over Lemmy, too, along with all the other social media platforms.

    It pretty much disappeared everywhere the instant trump won, as well as the complaints about grocery prices and the lies about gas prices.

    The exception was lemmy, prob thanks to hex, grad, and ml, where people still find the time to randomly inject democrat hate.

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    [–] 31 points 6 months ago (2 children)

    It's easy to critique and play both sides when you don't live here

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    [–] 30 points 6 months ago

    This is what will keep happening if the Dems election strategy remains "if you don't vote for us you get that asshole". And use them as an excuse not to do anything.

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  • [–] 28 points 6 months ago* (last edited 6 months ago) (53 children)

    Okay, so:

    • Voting Democrat in the general election is the choice with (edited in: the) least horrible consequences and
    • Voting Democrat in the general election isn't nearly enough to stop the ratchet-effecting into fascism, and a stand-for-nothing placeholder centrist Democrat president in 2028 will probably just lead to Trump-3/Vance/someone similarly horrible in 2032

    are unfortunately both true.

    Also, non-MAGA Americans - (EDIT: liberals, not the party leaders) and leftists alike - need better people skills. With infighting like this, Republicans hardly even need to lift a finger.

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    [–] 26 points 6 months ago (58 children)

    This person is an idiot. The american public gave up on their one chance to influence the outcome of the presidency and fucked it up for everyone beyond comprehension, and are now still trying to push the blame on the establishment. Fuck every one of the sitouts and republican voters. You enabled the orange buffoon and couldnt see the threat he represented. Sometimes, when life gives you a choice between lemons and your way of life being destroyed in a childish tantrum, you swallow the fucking lemon.

    Gaza and the world thanks you. Fuckers.

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    [–] 26 points 6 months ago

    Yeah, in glorious free America, there are only ever two choices. Ain't democracy great?

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  • [–] 25 points 6 months ago (8 children)

    I mean, she's right. Dems are supposed to represent the ideological opposite of Cons, both domestically and internationally.

    Of course, US foreign policy has always been uni-party, so there was never a chance that the Dems were going to concede. Despairingly so.

    I voted for Kamala, but she didn't everything in her power to destroy the momentum she got after Biden dropped out.

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    [–] 24 points 6 months ago (27 children)

    Arguing over who would have genocided people the nicest is fucked up on soooooooo many levels.

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    [–] 22 points 6 months ago (28 children)

    IMO it doesn't matter if you do a 3rd party protest vote if you're not in a swing state. The system is fundamentally broken by design

    There seems to be a ton of finger pointing from liberals (mostly outside of leemy). Trump won on promises to gullible fools on literally making cost of living cheaper (this includes fascist and non fascist talking points)

    The dems lost on not conveying their solutions to cost of living well and of course not taking a stand against the faction of war and genocide that many of them are actively working for or with.

    A lot of establishment dems are just mad it's not their brand of authoritarianism

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