1254
While wondering how much of this is going straight into Trump's pocket (europe.pub)
submitted 5 months ago by to c/politicalmemes@lemmy.world
134 comments fedilink hide all child comments
 
you are viewing a single comment's thread
view the rest of the comments
[–] 9 points 5 months ago* (20 children)

Yaay let's return to subtle corruption instead of blatant corruption!

It's called revolution. Doesn't mean it needs to be violent, but it needs to be organized ie bringing the economy down.

  • permalink
  • fedilink
  • source
  • parent
  • hideshow 20 child comments
    •
  • [–] -2 points 5 months ago* (19 children)

    What do you think should happen? Abolish elections? It's the culture that sucks.

  • permalink
  • fedilink
  • source
  • parent
  • hideshow 19 child comments
    •
  • [–] 3 points 5 months ago (14 children)

    Lmao, how extreme you are. Immediately erected that strawman of "abolish elections" right off the bat.

    No, elections would be needed no matter what. Or at the very least a form of voting if a direct democracy emerges from the ashes instead. However what isn't needed is this blatant corruption, a child rapist(and more) in The Whitehouse, or the various traitors that have sold out their constituents to the highest bidders. A government that has attacked it's people and put them in concentration camp and murdered them in broad daylight; yeah, that can go too.

    It's time for a New Constitution. That was always meant to be the plan when shit got this bad. And it sucks that it is this bad, as there is a shit ton of work ahead. And it can be more or less work depending on how hard as a populace we want to make it on ourselves. Which, make no mistake, the longer we wait, the harder it will be.

    So guess what, it's time to show how scary millions of people you share the same land with can be.

  • permalink
  • fedilink
  • source
  • parent
  • hideshow 14 child comments
    •
  • [–] 4 points 5 months ago (5 children)

    Do we need a new Constitution? Yes

    Do you want to try and write and pass a new Constitution while MAGA has propagandized the airwaves, the internet, social media, traditional media, print media, television news, cable news, and the radio? Absolutely fucking not. That's how you end up with Chancellor Trump and the next genocide.

  • permalink
  • fedilink
  • source
  • parent
  • hideshow 5 child comments
    •
  • [–] -1 points 5 months ago* (4 children)

    Well that's because you jumped into the middle of this, without following my original post's context. You missed a step. MAGA isn't as big as they seem, they're violent, but they're much smaller than they seem. Even if you discount the various bomb threats, the literal millions of mail in ballots that ended up in various ditches, and other forms of recorded disenfranchisement, there is also evidence of Trump cheating.

    What dominates the airwaves and our government is billionaire propaganda to prop up their puppets. No matter what it's going to take more than voting to actually fix the mess. It's going to take some to time to do a spring cleaning.

    You can either start that now, or after the mess gets bigger. Clean the house first, then we can start working on renovations.

  • permalink
  • fedilink
  • source
  • parent
  • hideshow 4 child comments
    •
  • [–] 4 points 5 months ago (3 children)

    If the MAGA machine allows Trump to cheat elections, why wouldn't it also cheat the new Constitution?

    It's insane to risk that until we clean up the other stuff. Get rid of legalized bribery (aka "political contributions") and get corporate power out of elections, and then we can talk about re-doing the fundamental document safeguarding our liberties from the Donald Trumps of the world.

  • permalink
  • fedilink
  • source
  • parent
  • hideshow 3 child comments
    •
  • [–] -2 points 5 months ago (2 children)

    You like to take stairs 3 steps at a time, don't you?

  • permalink
  • fedilink
  • source
  • parent
  • hideshow 2 child comments
    •
  • [–] 2 points 5 months ago (1 child)

    That's...that's literally what I argue against and what you advocate for.

  • permalink
  • fedilink
  • source
  • parent
  • hideshow 1 child comment
    •
  • [–] -2 points 5 months ago*

    Buddy, I multiple times explained we would have to clean up first. But you jumped right to the next steps while skipping over everything else, as if that was my argument.

    For whatever reason, either due to your own inability comprehend my words, or my inability to write them in a way that allows you to understand, it's seems we're ill suited to communicate.

  • permalink
  • fedilink
  • source
  • parent
  • [–] -1 points 5 months ago (6 children)

    Lmao, how extreme you are..

    What?

    And what kind of scaring and revolution would you suggest?

    You can show them by demonstrating or when you go vote. Because, you know, constitutions can be altered.

    Violent revolutions always devour their children.

  • permalink
  • fedilink
  • source
  • parent
  • hideshow 6 child comments
    •
  • [–] 4 points 5 months ago (5 children)

    You realize that we're already in a time of violence right? That people are being disappeared? That we are holding both citizens and immigrants alike in concentration camps, right?

    Like tell me, you're not this ignorant. How do you think that shit stops? We just wish it away?

  • permalink
  • fedilink
  • source
  • parent
  • hideshow 5 child comments
    •
  • [–] -1 points 5 months ago (4 children)

    And what do you suggest? Realistically. You can't do shit without the military. Go demonstrate. Go vote.

  • permalink
  • fedilink
  • source
  • parent
  • hideshow 4 child comments
    •
  • [–] 1 point 5 months ago (3 children)

    I can tell you're not great at thinking ahead, but a hot clue for you: If they can round us up now, they can round us up when we go to vote.

  • permalink
  • fedilink
  • source
  • parent
  • hideshow 3 child comments
    •
  • [–] -1 points 5 months ago* (2 children)

    What makes you so sure about that? You're just throwing a hysterical tantrum lol. Calm down, Ernesto.

  • permalink
  • fedilink
  • source
  • parent
  • hideshow 2 child comments
    •
  • [–] 1 point 5 months ago (3 children)

    Ah yes the culture, not the oligarchy or the fact that they control the politicians which largely control the culture. I, too, love treating the symptom while ignoring the disease.

  • permalink
  • fedilink
  • source
  • parent
  • hideshow 3 child comments
    •