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GitLab Act 2 - A letter to our customers and our investors. (about.gitlab.com)
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Lots of layoffs ("re-evaluating our operational footprint") and switching to "agentic" processes. Target user is AI.

Anyone still hosting Gitlab?

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[–] 46 points 4 months ago (17 children)

Codeberg is supporting forgejo which Codeberg is built on. Forgejo is ActivityPub powered git repositories. So imagine regular git, but everyone can have their own repos on their own sites and you can still interact with each other. So yes, Codeberg is centealized FOR NOW. But they're working on opening it up to EVERYONE to run their own and be able to access all the repos you use over the Fediverse.

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  • [–] 7 points 4 months ago* (11 children)

    Will it be possible to have decentralized pull requests? Like I open a PR on my site, my friend reviews my PR on his site, and I get his reviews on my site?

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  • [–] 9 points 4 months ago (8 children)

    This was always baked into basic git from the beginning if you review your code in E-Mail chains or mailing lists.

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  • [–] 4 points 4 months ago (4 children)

    So not really baked in at all then?

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  • [–] 4 points 4 months ago (3 children)

    why wouldn't it be? you can send emails from web uis too. you can share diffs however you desire. you can have a remote for each developer, and push/pull changes to each other. the github mindset kind of ruined the resilience and distributedness of git: one central remote, one account authority, one central place where discussing MRs... ever forgejo is not as good as decentralized git: what's a forgejo identity?

    meanwhile git has been decentralized and distributed since day one, linux is still developed in a decentralized and distributed way and forgepub is just not ready and not even close.

    sending emails with an attached diff to many ppl is too hard? make a nice offline gui doing that and we're distributed. github was a psyop to make us un-learn git, making it better is silly, like wasting decades searching for "good cigarettes"

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  • [–] -1 points 4 months ago (2 children)

    Okay, but by definition none of that is "baked into" git...

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  • [–] 1 point 4 months ago (1 child)

    Email chains and mailing lists are not really a practical way to develop anymore, and it is increasingly anachronistic (as is the idea of tying your identity to an email which is also baked into basic git). This was the only realistic democratic and federated option when git was designed, but it was never the ideal one. Forgejo is trying to build a better, more ideal, also-federated alternative that is really designed for code collaboration from the ground up. Once the design is stabilized, there's no reason it couldn't get built into git also. I would love to be able to create a PR with git itself and have it automatically submitted to the origin repository.

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  • [–] 1 point 4 months ago

    Email chains and mailing lists are not really a practical way to develop anymore, and it is increasingly anachronistic

    By what objective measure? Just because everyone listened to Github's siren song, doesn't make it so.

    So many Open Source projects are just one or two maintainers. So many PR's on Github involve just two people. That would all work over E-Mail, which is by design decentralized, unlike the web, which is by design not.

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  • [–] 1 point 4 months ago* (last edited 4 months ago)

    The protocol extension is ForgeFed and it’s still a work in progress afaik

    The issue tracker is on Codeberg.

    Forgejo is only one of the implementations and not the reference implementation.

    It will also be more general:

    • general VCS repo support and not just git
    • patch tracker (merge requests)
    • ticket tracker (issues)
    • release tracker
    • separation of repo and trackers, which allows for them to be on different instances and have specialized implementations
    • roadmap and workflow for issues and MR
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  • [–] 0 points 4 months ago (2 children)

    Just like bluesky is centralised "for now" i.e. forever

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  • [–] 16 points 4 months ago

    Except bluesky is funded by VC and they created their own protocol and federation design.

    Codeberg is an open source repo only place, they're building in AP, they have monthly updates. So nothing like Bluesky.

    But I understand the trepidation.

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