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The future of web development is AI. Get on or get left behind. (alex.party)
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[–] 102 points 2 years ago (5 children)

Had to click through to change my downvote to an upvote, lol.

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  • [+] -8 points 2 years ago (4 children)

    Non of those examples are relevant.

    Those examples are specific tools or specific implementation pattern, AI in development is a tool.

    It doesn't dictate how to write software or what the written code will look like, it's a tool that speeds up your code wiring. It catches typos and silly bugs that take hours to debug, it's able to generate useful unit tests, it can clean up and apply my code style way better than codemaid or resharper ever code, it's taken care of so much tedious shit and made software development fun again.

    Vibe coding is not the future of development. If you aren't learning to use AI as a tool in development, you are going to be left behind.

    It's more apt to compare it to IDEs. Sure, you can still write you entire app in vim and compile it in the terminal, but you would have been very foolish to deny the future of development was in IDEs.

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  • [–] 47 points 2 years ago

    You're describing exactly how all these web tools worked. "HTML, CSS, and JS are too hard to do manually. Here's a shiny new tool that abstracts all that away and lets you get right to making your site!" Except they all added additional headaches, security concerns, and failed to fill in edge cases, so you still need to know how to do all that HTML, CSS, and JS anyway. That's exactly how LLM generated code works now. It'll be useful and common for a while and then the technical debt will pile up and pile up and eventually everyone will look around and think "what the hell were we thinking" and tear it all down.

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  • [–] 10 points 2 years ago

    Pretty much everyone I work with uses vim, emacs, sublime, or vscode. I like IDEs and use them for.. well Java, but I wouldn't argue that they've made the other tools obsolete or you're a fool for sticking with the old ones. If it ain't broke and all that. It actually seems like more people are moving back to pluggable text editors over IDEs

    I've used AI tools a bit. They've really helped drop in code that would previously just be a bunch of TODOs; they get you up and writing the core parts much faster to see if the idea even works. They've also really helped answer specific questions or lead me towards the answer. They've also straight up lied to me quite a bit. It's a weird tool.

    I think the OP image is pretty wrong with the comparison it makes. LLMs/AI are a class of technology that are most definitely not going anywhere unless something dramatic happens. Some people, myself included, feel uneasy about the way they're created and the fact that people in powerful positions completely misunderstand them, and I think that leads to the hope that they're just a fad.

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  • [–] 4 points 2 years ago

    It is always hilarious and strange to see the buy-in on these things. We have a single coder in his late 60s that has bought in hard to spicy autocorrect. Meanwhile, the youngest on our team (like 22) won’t touch it with a 10 ft pole.

    The other issue is just the morality of it. Do I know people that got rich on Bitcoin? Yes. Do I feel like they’re participating in a pyramid scheme still? Also yes. And with spicy autocorrect, where they got their training data for any and all of these models is so freaking morally bankrupt, and they’re desperate to paper over that and make it “ok” for businesses to use it.

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